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MaidMarion
12-24-2004, 01:48 AM
OK, the main purposes of this rant is that I'm dying to get this whole story off my ches as it's been building for a while. Spelling will be terrible.

I am, and have always been a complete and utter needle phobic. I have never delt well with shots blood test, etc.

Last July, my dentist tells me I need my wisdom teeth removed. (note: I have always had a perfact mouth, never one cavity in my life) So this is the first time I'm ever even seen a novicane needle...YIKES!

Well, I just couldn't hold still long enough for him to give me the novicane. After the dentist almost stabbing himeself in the hand, he tell me he's going to recomend and oral surgen and I'll have to get sedated.

I go in for a consultation with this oral surgen. It turns out, that laughing gas stuff, very recently, within the last two years, has been deemed unsafe, now they use an IV sedation to put you to sleep. *HELP*

I walked out of there without maike an apointment for the removal.

My mom calls my aunt, who's a dental assistant. She tell me to go see this guy she used to work for back when she lived in this area. (she lives in Vagas now) She reassures me that they have delt with a number of phobics and he's the best.

I go for a consultation with this guy. I tell him straight up, "I'm a total phobic, I don't deal with needles period"

He gives me a perscription for some anti-axioty medication. (vallium) Tells me to take it an hour before I come in, it will calm me down enough for them to get the IV in my arm and get me to sleep.

You can imagine I had a ton of questions. "define 'out of it'" "am I going to not know you're putting a needle in my arm?"

They said "you'll know, you just won't care" " you'll be so relaxed, you'll just wnat to lay there"

So, two days later, I take the pills and my friends drives me to the appointment.

I wasn't feeling any effect, but my friend says I was sluring my speach and walking funny.

I get into the surgury room, not feeling the least but relaxed. When the oral surgen came in and asked how I was doing, I told him the vallium didn't work. his response: "well, you're just going to have to be an adult then"

With that, he snached my arm, hard, and started putting rubbing alcohol on it. I get hystarical, start crying and kicking. His assistant pulls out these velcro straps and straps my arm tot he arms of the chair.

This makes me even more terrified, Imanage to tear out of the velcro, the problem, he was just putting the needle in my arm. This results in a approx 2 inch scar in the fore arm that is still there to this day.

With that, he rips the turekets off my arm and says "fine if you're not goign to grow up, you can go home". Thank gods that's over.

So my apointment was at 10 am, meaning I tookt he valium at 9 am. About 4-4:30 pm, I was at home and started feeling light headed. I go to lay down and all of a sudden I can't move.

I don't want to say I was paralized, just totally limp. It was like there was a road block keeping my brain signals from getting to my body. I was totally consious, culd hear and feel everything around me, but couldn't react. One of the scariest moments of my life.

A few times my mom came in to check on me. I wanted to ansure her, but I couldn't. Example: once she came in amd said to herself "wow, she's out for the count" I'm like "no i'm not" "hello" "don't leave me" but nothing would come out.

At one point I had to get up and go to the bathroom, but I couldn't, I ended up having an accidant in the bed adn STILL COULDN'T GET UP!!! I have no idea how long I was laying there.

Needless to say, my wisdom teeth are still in my mouth.

A month or so later. I'm at the doctor, and she wants to do some blood work, to which I said as nicely as I could hell no. I tell her about what had happend witht the oral surgan, and without missing a beat. she whips out a sample starter pack of some anti-depressants and starts giving me this speach about how phobias are atype of axioty disorder and I should go on this zoloft stuff.

Needless to say after the wisdom tooth nightmare I wasn't even going to consiter any more of these type of drugs.

Now I've been thinking about this whole this alot since then, maybe too much.

What I've finally realized is that every single needle puncure I can remember has been forced agaisnt my. i have always been held down, or in the last case, strapped down. Yelled at to "grow up" or the like.

It seems I'm just as afraid of the confinement as I am of the needle itself.

I have never been given the chance to calm down on my own, with excuse being they don't have time, they have other pateints they have to move on to. So they're so quick to just pounce and have you restrained. I've just never been about to separate thet wo untill I was laying in my parents bed helpless.

So as one fInal rant to anyone who may be in the medical feild, HAVE SOME FRIGGIN COMPASSION!!!

If I am ever gogint o get over this, it's got to be on my terms. The next one will be when I say, and not when some doctor says. I NEVER want to feel that helpless and scared again as I was when they were strpping me down adn when I was limp in bed.

If anything has anything to add, or any advise for me. you can respond or email me personally at [email protected]

Thanks for reading. If any of you are parents, I'm begging you to now force your children to undergo any medical proceder against their will You ahve no idea what a lasting impression that makes.

*HUGS*

K.J.

Phoenix McHeit
12-24-2004, 08:02 AM
:grouphug: Oh sweetie... I'm so sorry for your trauma!!!!! I can understand your reluctance to attempt chemicals that alter your perception - what a horrible experience!
Personally, I have no issue with needles myself, but I am a parent and have had to comfprt my children during their vaccinations. But I never 'restrained' then forcefully. As a matter of fact, I had one doctor get pissed at me for being in his way, cuz I held the boys on my lap & sang to them softy during it. Basically I told him he wasn't about to terrify my boy, and if this is what it takes, he needs to deal. Long story short, son got his shot, no tears, and Doc had more respect for me after the fact. I greatly respect those in the medical field... but that respect does not extend to bowing & scraping just cuz they have an MD after their name.

Perhaps you might want to speak to a therapist who specializes in phobias? And I know this may sound wonky to some, but I have had very good results from hypnotism. Maybe that might work better at having you relaxed, and no chemicals. I dunno, have you ever tried anything like that?

I'm sorry I don't have better advice for you.. just let me say I feel for you, and I'm sorry you had to go through such an awful time. :smooch:

Ysobelle
12-24-2004, 08:42 AM
And as for the doctor who strapped you down and scarred you? You need to report his sorry ass to the Board. Who the hell does he think he is?That behaviour is absolutely inexcusable. Absolutely. It's also humiliating, brutal, and about a hundred years out of date: you do NOT deal with an hysterical, terrified woman by strapping her down and teling her it's HER fault and SHE needs to grow up. It's not like you didn't tell him beforehand you had a phobia.

Jesus. What a disgrace!

Mylilpinkpig
12-24-2004, 09:06 AM
I saw this post and had to reply. What you are suffering from are panic attacks, I know because I have them. With me its not needles, its claustrophobia. The thought of being stuck in that dentists chair is torture for me. The fact that you were restrained, ridiculed and had horrible experiences only adds to the phobia. First off, you are not crazy, immature or whatever else insensitive people may tell you. The phobia takes over your body and you have no control over your response. There are breathing techniques that can help calm you down and also certain vitamins will help. They will not help the first time you are faced with a needle. I went to a therapist to help with mine. It was the best thing that I ever did. It turned out that it was unprocessed trauma from the way that my father died that was manifesting itself as claustrophobia. You might want to make an appointment with a therapist to talk about it. Then you need to find a dentist or oral surgeon who works with phobic patients. Here in NY, there is an entire practice in the city just for phobic patients. If any dentist tells you to grow up and deal with it and tries to strap you down, tell him you do not want treatment and LEAVE. That is not a caring professional. In fact, I would report the one who did that to you. Call and make an appointment with the dentist and telll the receptionist you are highly phobic and do not want any treatment the first visit. Go and talk the problem out with him. Valium is not going to help with anxiety. You needed ativan or xanax (sp). They block anxiety. I am sorry for the way that you were treated. People don't understand that while a needle is nothing to them, to a needle phobic the thought of it is horrendous. Your mind starts racing, your heart is pounding and it feels like you are having a heart attack. Your adrenaline is pumping so fast that you can not control what is going on. I wish that horrible dentist could experience one, I am sure his attitude would change. I won't be able to check the boards anymore but I did see your post and had to help. I am going to e-mail you and give you my #. I can give you so much more info on this. I don't want this to turn into a 10 page post, lol. If you are close to NY, I can put you in touch with an oral surgeon I know who is caring and kind. I will even go with you.It helps to have someone you can trust in the room to bop the dentist on the head if he is being cruel. I am so sorry that happened to you.

rosefaeries
12-24-2004, 08:19 PM
Report him now. As a former member of the medical field, I find this behavior to be unacceptable. Furthermore, his behavior, depending on the laws of where this happened at, could constitute assault.(The forcing of the iv and restraining you) Furthermore, to let you leave while under the influence of the valium is unforgiveable. (I am assuming you were given a large dose in order for you to be "relaxed" enough when it came time to start.) You do not leave a sedated patient alone nor do you allow them to leave until they are no longer being affected by the medication. Thank god you came out of it. But if you had not been so lucky , there would have been no one there with the training to help you. And who knows if am ambulance would have gotten there in time. Was your friend given instructions on what to watch for in case of adverse reactions to the valium? This dentist/oral srugeon needs to be reported. How many other patients has this type of experience has happened to? And if he would force the treatment, what else is he capable of doing?

AllieSutherland
12-24-2004, 09:32 PM
I would recommend looking for a dentist near you (or oral surgeon), probably in the nearest large city, that specializes in "sedation dentistry." They are specially trained with a variety of approaches toward dealing with the emotional and physical needs that some patients may have in relation to sedation.

I know that this wouldn't help with the mental assocaition with needles, but there IS a spray anethetic that can be used before inserting a needle or IV so that you can't feel anything. Honestly. It is a cold, numbing srpay that they use before some very painful procedures that I have done regularly.

((hugs)) I hope you have a better experience if you do decide to try it again.

Absinthe d'Accalia
12-28-2004, 09:29 PM
I can vouch for that numbing spray they use before IV insertion. You literally cannot tell they are putting a needle anywhere near you when they use that stuff. I've found that if you're looking the opposite way it doesn't hurt the cause either!

Psyche
12-29-2004, 01:21 AM
Oooooh... I need some of that spray!