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'Nise
04-22-2003, 06:10 PM
I'm begining to draft a design for my wedding gown and I've come to a quandry.
First we are doing a kinda sort medeval wedding (ie me and my fiance will be in garb early garb however what everyone else is wearing is up to them). I'm not at all going to worry horribly about authenticity, I figure it's my wedding, as long as Josh doesn't mind, why should I.

That being said is there anyone who does know what was period undergarmets? The period is roughly 1100-1300. I chose to use Simplicities bridal pattern #9162 http://simplicity.com/s2b.htm as a base, I'm planning on changing the neckline to a square neck and embroidering/applicaeing a Triscalion on the front and then doind a mantal/ cape to fall over the train with another triscalion on the back edge of the cape.

That being said other then a bra how does one stay up? I'm a C-D cup and I'm not going au-natural for this but period undergarments would be neat to have.

Thanks.
'Nise

vanessa
04-23-2003, 01:08 AM
Congratulations first off! :)

The dress looks nice, and I agree (being a DD), you do need support with that style!!!! If you have a Lady Grace in a mall near you, RUN there! They sell some of the best supportive undergarments; I would suggest a strapless piece. They carry them even for those of us larger on top! :)

For the bottom half of the undergarments, depending on weather, you could wear bloomers. (See previous threads on the wearing & making of such!)

If you don't want to go the strapless underpiece and are not set in your dress yet, not knowing a) the time of year of your wedding, b) your figure and c) your sewing prowess (though, by the sounds of what you are planning to make, you certainly don't sound like a beginner!), here are some suggestions:

If you don't mind moving to a more Bodice-like dress (in which you can add STEEL boning instead of the plastic the packaging states!) (some of these are URL's to an ebay seller I buy my patterns from; even if she sells the pattern, she frequently has more in stock):

1.) Simplicity's 8881 looks STUNNING in all white (but not quite right for Triskelion embroidery)!!!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=11801&item=2318474213&rd=1

2.) I've seen it and may have it at home (i'm at work right now) but don't have the pattern make/#... may lend itself better to embroideryhttp://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=11801&item=2318477233&rd=1

3.) This boned top has princess seams which tends to look good on *most* figures. It is an off the shoulder so if the wedding is in the winter, this would either be a no-no or need to be modified a bit. (don't have the pattern # for this one either, but I want it!)
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=11801&item=2318491395&rd=1

4.) Jury's still out on this one, but it looks like it could do decently for additional embroidery work (this one is McCall's 3869)
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=11801&item=2318491395&rd=1

5.) Simplicity's 9929 (depending on weather as this one looks like it could get a bit heavy) looks like it would make a great wedding dress! Not too sure about adding the embroidery, though. :) Sorry, no URL on this one.

6.) This one is my personal favorite!!! McCalls 3861. The view I love is the one with the fur trimmings on it. It is simple and elegant in the same measure!!!! Depending on the weather, the fur could be replaced with Triskelion trim? I'm sure it could be found fairly easily.... :) Sorry, no URL on this one.

emalia
04-23-2003, 07:16 AM
From the lines of it, it seems as if you could fully line and interline the piece. What I would suggest doing, is this.. 1st, make a FULL MUSLIN!!! But, you can alter the size and fit of the lining without affecting the look.. You can use a properly fitted lining and interlining to act as support.. then you needn't worry about the lines upper undergarments can make.

As for the bottom half.. What are you comfortable with?? You could wear something fun, or you could go Au natural with a garter and that is it... It is really up to you...

jmthane
04-23-2003, 02:34 PM
Yes, I would point out that period undergarments would be no undergarments. :D

'Nise
04-23-2003, 06:04 PM
I'm debating on boning the lining, right now I'm thinking of a cotton lining as the estimated date is June, which June we aren't quite sure but we began seeing each other the day before midsummer and Midsummer is going to be our year and a day (or 2 or 3 years and a day).

I started sewing about the age of 5 or so, my grandmother taught me, unfortunatly machines have this awful habit of blowing up around me, so a decent portion of my garb has been hand sewn.

And I am most definatly mocking this up in muslin. I and not confident enough in my drafting skills to try princess seams with out something for a guide...mabe after this dress is done.

Oh well, thanks for all of you help!
'Nise