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Stormfeather
09-26-2009, 08:56 PM
Pacific Northwest: Oregon Wench Guild Forming NOW--
we have turned in our paper work and are now awaiting our own local #

So Ye Wanna be a Sea Siren Wench?
Then Join our e-mail list! We are called the Sea Sirens and as a group we are official members of the International Wenches Guild (IWG). Now forming the first ever local "house" based in the Portland, Oregon / Willamette Valley area. As there is no group presently in the Northwest, we also welcome potential members from all over Oregon and Washington.
We were formerly part of the California Local.

What is the Sea Siren, IWG Group About?

In general our members enjoy history, crafting, camping, costuming, and historical or fantasy "re-enacting" type events. We are friendly, and creative women who know how to have a good time. We plan to create "period" encampments at events/faires and interact with patrons and other campers by singing, carousing, entertaining, teasing and well-- wenching!!!

We honor wenchley diversity....We are not tied to a particular period, so in addition to the iconic Renaissance Faire wench, viking wenches, and 18th c pirates, and more are welcome!

Indeed some of us time travel quite a bit! Some of our members also play with one or more pirate groups, the SCA , the Rose City Steampunks groups.yahoo.com/group/rcsteam (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rcsteam) and/or attend Burning Man.

Each member is encouraged to develop their own wench costuming and wench persona(s) to fit in with their chosen time period. We will do our best to respect each faire/camping event time period without going overboard on the stitch counting!

Join Up!
It is suggested, that you join the International Wench's Guild
http://www.wench.org/Join (http://www.wench.org/forums/../). You will be a nice pewter pin and other goodies if you do join!

If you are interested in finding out more and possibly joining up with the the Sea Sirens, IGW please follow this link and select "join this group" and join our e-mail list.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/iwgseasiren/ .

Feel free to post a personal introduction to the mailing list, and please stay on topic.

Important Note:
E-Mail list membership (The Sea Siren IWG yahoo group) is only a precursor to final Sea Siren, IGW group membership. All members are asked to be active, participating members who attend camping events and all are subject to group approval by vote. Membership "guidelines" are currently in the works...

Yes, we will include the Rogues (a.k.a. men) to play, and join us at events-- we love MEN! (Someone has to do the heavy lifting!) And although this is open for further discussion, please don't invite men to join the e-mail list, at this time.

EVENTS!
This is our tentative event list where we may plan on having a Sea Siren, IWG Wench encampments for the coming season. Mark your calendars now and plan on joining us!

The Grand Thing: SCA Viking/Norse and Irish, Stevenson, WA (Memorial Day weekend) : http://www.thegrandthing.org/
(http://www.thegrandthing.org/)
Gypsy Days/Sea Dog Nights: Lebanon, OR (last weekend in July): www.seadognights.com (http://www.seadognights.com/)

Canterbury Faire: Silverton, OR (mid July- attending first weekend): http://www.canterburyfaire.com/

Shrewbury Faire: near Corvallis (mid September): http://shrewfaire.com/

Some of us attend Sci fi con's during the winter. There will be airship wenches this year at:
SteamCon (http://www.steam-con.com (http://www.steam-con.com/)/ Oct '09),
OryCon (http://www.orycon.org/orycon31/ Thanksgiving weekend, Nov '09)
Norwescon (http://www.norwescon.org/ Easter weekend 2010).

Meet Up!
We will be having a first Sea Sirens, IWG meeting soon (Oct or Nov of 2009). We will discuss membership guidelines, costuming, songbook, encampments and events at this meeting. The meeting will be held in Portland, Oregon.

Join the e-mail list so we can let you know as soon as our first meet up is scheduled!
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/iwgseasiren/

Forward this message to like-minded Wenches!

Buckets of Love
- Stormfeather
[email protected]
Madame of the Sea Sirens
Local# tbd, IWG

Stormfeather
09-26-2009, 10:24 PM
I see Washington has formed their own Chapter, Good for them.
We will stick with Oregon then!

Ysobelle
09-27-2009, 05:13 AM
I'm not trying to be obtuse-- I swear!-- but I see you've said IGW several places. Is this different from the IWG? You submitted paperwork to Lars, or is this something else?

Stormfeather
09-27-2009, 04:56 PM
IGW should be IWG! I plead dyslexia!

IGW I believe is the International Grocery Workers (or something else that must have been stuck in my head.) LOL

Yes, we have submitted paperwork-- in August. We did not know that concurrently Washington had recently claimed us , but we respectively would like our own Guild in Oregon.

Portland is a good 3 hours from Seattle and it is just not practical to attend meetings there.

http://www.wench.org/forums/images/buttons/edit.gif (http://www.wench.org/forums/editpost.php?do=editpost&p=381547)

Stormfeather
09-27-2009, 05:13 PM
correction-- we turned in our paperwork to Lars in July.

Mistress_Autumn
09-27-2009, 11:21 PM
Meet-ups for Local 26 are tba, but more than likely will be in Lacey, WA... About as central a location for all members in the WA/OR area as we can get. (Especially since we have a location in Lacey that can actually accommodate everyone without costing any additional monies.)

I recall several notifications that the Wenches would be meeting up on closing weekend, where we were given the go-ahead from Lars to announce that our paperwork had gone through and Local 26 would encompass both Washington and Oregon.

Perhaps you missed the notices on the board about getting together on the last weekend? Or maybe you missed the notices on the board about WA/OR getting our own Local Chapter?

Announcing your intent to gain your own chapter is one thing, and generally encouraged if you have done your homework. What you have posted here... is not something that I would have expected from a fellow Wench.

"All members are asked to be active, participating members who attend camping events and all are subject to group approval by vote. Membership "guidelines" are currently in the works..."

So you'll be weeding out anyone who doesn't fit your clique? That's honestly not something that I think fits with the Guild's theme of sisterhood.

ALL members within the Local Chapter area should be allowed to join in the chapter. What you have stated is that you will be limiting the number (or type) of Wenches allowed in your group.

Seriously?

And if you're going to be attempting to limit your group to only OR wenches and events... putting a bunch of WA events on your list is a bit shady.

Just my $0.02.

Stormfeather
09-28-2009, 12:05 AM
There seems to be some poor communication here...

I had a discussion via private message with SHpepperKat in June regarding our plans to form an Oregon local.

She insisted she was working on a Pacific Northwest group.

I replied, that I preferred to form our own Oregon group. She then promised to send me info about her plans and keep me informed via e-mail.

I never heard from her, either via private message, or e-mail.

In July we submitted our paperwork for Oregon.

Before my latest post I did a search of the forums for "WRFF", and "Oregon" (and every other way I could think of) for threads started by or posted to by SHpepperKat. I found no mention of any formal meet-up planned that included Oregon.

Perhaps she didn't use the terms I searched for, perhaps the search function failed. Maybe someone else posted the info?

I had no idea that she went ahead and formed a group. I thought SHpepperKat would have at least contacted me, and kept me in the loop.

I inquired at WRFF the second weekend, when I was there, and no one knew anything about IWG members organizing anything.

As far as us being exclusive, or a clique that is not our intention.

Yes, we will have requirements for wenches who plan to join us by camping in our encampment at Faire. Generally, those same rules that the Faire also requires of it's "staff" or "volunteers" or "performers".

We plan to designate the more committed IWG members who camp with us as a guild with another name or title that is to be determined.

Of course any casual member of the IWG is welcome to join our yahoo group or play at faire.

I obviusly need to rewrite my announcement to clarify this, I didn't realize it would be perceived that way.

We don't need IWG to form our faire guild or do an encampment at Faire.

Since I was already an IWG member, I just thought it was fun and would welcome some ladies I didn't already know into our group.

I did not list any Washington Faires on our list of events, and have no plans to be at WRFF.
I only mentioned a Viking SCA event, and that I would be attending SteamCon and Norwescon (Sci Fi Cons).

Stormfeather
09-28-2009, 12:58 AM
Please excuse my sloppy copywriting.
Hopefully this clarifies our intentions.

Important Note:
We plan to host a guild yard or encampment at faire and other camping events as the Sea Sirens.

"iwgSeaSiren" yahoo group e-Mail list membership, and membership in the IWG are only a precursor to joining us in the Sea Siren Encampment.

All those who wish to sign up to be a volunteer performer at faire and camp in the Sea Siren Encampment are asked to be active, participating Wenches or Rogues and are subject to group approval by vote. Sea Siren Faire volunteer performer/ Camper "guidelines" are currently in the works, but will generally restate faire staff expectations.

More casual Oregon IWG members, or visitors from from beyond are more than welcome to play at Faire and may find sanctuary and will be welcomed with open arms to our guild yard/encampment during public faire hours.

Ysobelle
09-28-2009, 02:32 AM
Ahh. Okay. I would say, though, that since many of us don't have a concept of "encampments" at our faires, you might wanna explain what that is, and how it's different from the Local's activities. I know that caused some problems of perception a few years ago in Florida.

Stormfeather
09-28-2009, 03:02 AM
Surely..
this is how it works at least out here in the Pacific Northwest.
I'm sure it is more complicated where the faires are bigger. We do not have many established "guilds". We are still in the temporary faire held in the center of a hayfield stage!

We thought that if we were going to be a guild consisting of wenches running the Sea Siren Inn, we might as well encourage our members to join the IWG and invite any lonely Oregon IWG members out there to join with us!

In order to be a guild at a faire, a group submits a formal application about 6 months in advance to the performance director . Usually you must include your guild name and concept, photos of costuming (to ensure it goes with the faire's time period or theme) number of participants, names, description and or photos of activities in the guild yard and if planning to walk about faire as an improv group.

The leader signs an agreement on behalf of their group members with the faire. There is a code of behavior and expectations that the group leader/organizer is responsible to share with their guild mates and enforce.

Sometimes there is a small honorarium for established groups, usually the guild volunteers their time for the benefit of the faire.

An encampment or Guild yard is a place at a public Faire, where groups do historical demos/ living history and/or entertainment during faire hours.

Most Faires allow guild members to camp at their guild yard with period tents, and furnishings during the event.

Often guilds will interact and do improv with other groups. One common example is that the Privateers kidnap a Royal princess bring her back to their "ship" and demand a ransom from the Royal Guild.

Some faires also ask "walk-about-only" performers or street characters to sign up as volunteers.

Of course one may pay admission and attend faire in garb as a "playtron" and dress and behave as you please.

SHpepperKat
09-28-2009, 09:30 AM
Allow me to clarify some issues here.
First yes, I did have some communication with Stormfeather about forming a Local for the Pacific Northwest. Yes, she did express wanting an Oregon only group.
There were two or three pm’s and then I heard nothing else from her. Everyone else who asked checked back and information was passed on to them.

As things progressed with getting the new Local, the decision was made to arrange a meet and greet the last weekend of the faire. We were hoping to have the charter at that point and be able to announce the new Local. There were several IWG wenches there and we did announce the new local to them at faire. When we returned home, the new local was announced here on the boards. There was a lot of back and forth behind the scenes that had to happen to make this happen. We made a decision to announce it to the wenches who were at the meet and greet and then to the general forums at large.


Yes someone else did post the info, however, I was right there posting along with the rest of them. There have been other posts talking about Local 26 as well. The biggest being http://www.wench.org/forums/showthread.php?t=89258&highlight=It%27s+official (http://www.wench.org/forums/showthread.php?t=89258&highlight=It%27s+official)

Sorry, I don’t remember how to make the link all prettyful.

The announcement was titled “A New Chapter”. http://www.wench.org/forums/showthread.php?t=89202

There was nothing to stop Stormfeather from checking back with me or asking publicly about what was happening. I apologize that we decided to try and surprise the few wenches that took the time to make it to the weekend of the meet and greet. We just wanted the first meeting to be something special.

As for not having the Local listed on the boards, I am working on that. I understand that Snipe is busy and these things take a little time. I have made the request and am waiting to hear back. It’s a busy season for a lot of people and patience is a virtue.

Lady Sarah
09-28-2009, 11:02 AM
let me see if I understand this....

Storm Feather is looking to put together a Performer's Guild for WRFF, essentially, versus an Oregon Local of the IWG Guild?

Stormfeather
09-28-2009, 12:06 PM
No.

I have no intention of appearing at WRFF.

We have events in Oregon to attend, and don't want to travel that far (WRFF is presently held east of the Seattle-Tacoma area of Washington, we are in Portland, Oregon- a good 3 1/2 hours away)

Yes, I am forming a "guild"-- more of a "living history" group than "performance", but performers are of course welcome!

It would be great to have folks who like to sing!

I am encouraging our guild members who are not already members of the IWG to join up.

I am also extending an invitation to anyone else here, who is a member of the IWG to join us, either as part of a guild or as a more casual participant as just a wench who is a IWG member.

Lady Sarah
09-28-2009, 01:16 PM
Ah. I think I get it now.

You're looking to form your own little group of travelling/fun having pals... and IWG Recruiting at the same time.

Maybe it's just me, but it doesn't have to be an IWG Local, really. Why are you trying to form one - especially when you're looking for non-IWG to fold in as well?

The reasons you've given for forming your own Local... I'm not sure if they're really that valid. To me, at least.

Are you 100% sure that you've thought this through and taken into consideration the work that comes with setting up a Local?

rosefaeries
09-28-2009, 01:48 PM
Here is a novel concept for you. Just... form... your ...guild. Don't try to have an Oregon local of IWG. There is already one for the Pacific Northwest.

You pointed out in another thread that it isn't practical for the Portland area wenches to travel to Washington for meetings or events. Guess what, it isn't practical for me to travel to Portland for meetings or events. I drive an hour just to get to the valley floor to go to school. Portland is another 2 1/2-3 hour drive for me or longer if weather or road conditions are not good. Based on your logic, I should form a local here.

I am ok with driving to Washington once in awhile for events, especially since there is a place large enough to accommodate everyone. And as far as I know, I am the one that will be driving the furthest.

Based on what you have posted here and what little I managed to read on your yahoo group (before the messages became viewable by members only), I would not join the wenches guild. Fortunately, I have been on the boards for awhile and have talked with a few of the members in person, and based on those experiences I would still join, but not *your* local.

I don't like the tone your postings have taken. Furthermore, your first post in this thread I found to be insulting, presumptuous, misleading and geared more to rabid SCA members and living history reenactors than to a ren faire much less to members of this board. (Please note, I am aware that there are SCA members and living history reenactors that are not rabid. And that the rabid members are not the norm, they are just the ones everyone remembers and talks about while cringing.)

Let's address what you have on the page for your yahoo group. You are not the Oregon chapter of the IWG at this time. Until Lars says that there is an Oregon local, there is no Oregon only local.

For those of you who haven't seen the page yet, here it is. (Just in case she goes and changes it before the right people see it. And just for the record, I have saved a copy web page)

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/iwgseasiren/


A living History Guilde for WENCHES who want to play Faire!!!

Our members also belong to the
Oregon Chapter of the International Wenches Guilde (IWG)
we are based in Portland, Oregon.

Are You a Wench?

If you can answer any 3 of these questions with an "ohh yeah", then you are obviously a woman of distinction, a product of excellent breeding, possessed of stunning (if not vaguely dubious) talents and appetites and clearly belong in the International Wenches Guild.

* Do men require an "adjustment" after kissing you?
* Is your tongue registered as a precision surgical instrument?
* Have you been accused of smuggling melons across state lines?
* Do you really know what a sponge is for?
* Was "Soak a Bloke" considered your time off?
* Do you think it's wise to use ice cubes and menthol together?
* Is whipped cream more than just a dessert topping?
* Do men lose the power of speech when you adjust your bodice or breath deeply?
* Are you vertically challenged but horizontally gifted?
* Do you like to play with your food?
* When removing your bra on Monday, do you find enough loose change to buy breakfast?

JOIN THE IWG: http://www.wench.org (http://www.wench.org/forums/../)
You did not credit where you got the text from. There is no Oregon chapter. Are you in the habit of posting untruths?

And it would be safe to assume that the same text was up on the page since that yahoo group was founded on August 22, 2009 or shortly after that date. That was not your work to use without permission or without giving credit.

Stormfeather
09-28-2009, 02:46 PM
Okay,,,,This is the sequence of events so far.

Last June I inquired as to the existance of a IWG local anywhere in the Pacific Northwest on these boards

I was told SHppperKat was organizing something

I contacted her via personal message.
She said she was forming a Pacific Northwest Local that would include Oregon.

I said that might be okay, but repeatedly said I would prefer to have a seperate Oregon group.

She requested my e-mail which I gave to her and she promised to get information to me.

I never heard from her either here on the boards or via e-mail.

In July we submitted our information to Lars to form an Oregon Group.

I inquired when visiting WRFF in August, no one knew anything about a new IWG local forming.

I announced to these boards that a Oregon group was forming, to invite any interested Oregon IWG wenches to join us.

This is met with a less than friendly attitude.

All I can say is that I am astounded by the attitude here. I have no intention of participating in a flame war.

I have explained myself as plainly as I could.

My only intention was to encourage more membership in the IWG and invite those who already belonged to the IWG who live in Oregon to join us.

Lady Sarah
09-28-2009, 03:40 PM
Whoa, reel it in there Feather! Flame War? WHAT THE FUCK? No one's flamed you. TRUST ME. If you'd been flamed, you'd know it.

You've been questioned repeatedly because your posts here have been just confusing as can be. What you've tried to explain is *still* confusing. It might be crystal clear to you, but that doesn't mean it's clear to anyone else.

I stand by what I said - it sounds to me like you want your own clique within the Guild. You do. not. need. IWG Local Charter to have that, not when you're seeking to add people into your clique who aren't IWG to begin with.

You're getting the idea of a Local bass-ackwards, sweetheart - you don't form a Local and make membership within the IWG a 'heavily suggested' requirement. Vice-versa - Locals are for IWG members and you don't get a choice about who you accept into the Local.

So, in conclusion, if you want to form a Local for the State of Oregan IWG members, then you need to rethink the reasons and requirements for 'membership' within that group - as in forgo the whole concept of membership requirements, because There Is Only One Requirement - an IWG membership. Or, if you insist on having membership requirements, then take the IWG Local idea and get rid of it and just have your own little sandbox Guild or Group or Chapter or whatever you want to call it.

The two ideas, as you're expressing them, are not the same thing.

renstyles
09-28-2009, 04:10 PM
She said she was forming a Pacific Northwest Local that would include Oregon.

I said that might be okay, but repeatedly said I would prefer to have a seperate Oregon group.



In June it was expressed that NW group was in the works and how there are so few of us that a NW one local would be all we really need. Even I, an Oregon Wench, felt that way.

In the quoted text above, you keep mentioning "I", but never we. There are two other active guild members here in Oregon, who have been here for a long time, and we were never asked if we wanted to create our own local in Oregon. We were part of the discussion for the NW one. I personally was ecstatic that the plans were in the works for a local NW one.

As I said back in June "However just because we create 1 local for 2 states doesn't mean us Oregon wenches are stopped from having meetings, get togethers, and such." and I still feel that way. We have the start of a great group from Oregon and Washington.

Ysobelle
09-28-2009, 04:16 PM
Okay, okay, really-- we're ALL just looking to have fun. No need for anyone to get out the fire tongs and baseball bats. Unless you like that sort of thing, but that's another thread.

Stormfeather: you want an encampment in Oregon, and you'd also like to get an Oregon IWG Local, right?

SHpepperKat: you're setting up a Local for the Pacific Northwest, which currently includes Oregon, right?


I think what needs to happen here is for Oregon Wenches to determine if they actually have enough warm bodies to form a separate Local yet. We've been through this in PA already-- it's a bit of a slog, but it all turns out well in the end. I think you need at least fourteen Wenches, but it's been a while since last I checked. For now, it may be that you have to have one Local to cover the Pacific Northwest, but you can have several hostels to cater to local Wenches.

As for the encampment, that's a wholly separate issue. I know one faire had issues mixing Wenches with encampment-people, and some confusion prevailed. Feelings were hurt, because the perception was that that group was IWG-related, but refused to allow IWG Wenches in. So just be aware that it might get kind of confusing. The idea of an encampment and a Guild specific to that faire is foreign to a lot of us, so you may have to explain it a lot.

But still-- good luck! To all of you!

SHpepperKat
09-28-2009, 04:31 PM
Yes, Local 26 is designed to cover Washington, Oregon and anyone in Idaho who wants to join in our fun and games.

We just had enough people including Rosefairies and Renstyles to get the Local approved. We do ahve the official charter and everything so #26 is official.

I don't get the whole encampment thing unless it's like what the SCA does and that's their thing. Not much of that here of which I am aware.

If they can get enough wenches to form a seperate Local, more power to them. It was difficult to get enough here for the one we have.

We are still working on a site for a hostel at Faire for next season.

renstyles
09-28-2009, 04:35 PM
I think what needs to happen here is for Oregon Wenches to determine if they actually have enough warm bodies to form a separate Local yet. We've been through this in PA already-- it's a bit of a slog, but it all turns out well in the end. I think you need at least fourteen Wenches, but it's been a while since last I checked. For now, it may be that you have to have one Local to cover the Pacific Northwest, but you can have several hostels to cater to local Wenches.

I think that's exactly where we are. We just don't have enough warm bodies to make Oregon its own local. I think we're barely covered with how many NW wenches we have. I would love to see some day Oregon having 14 Wenches, or how ever many are needed to make it's own local. And I can see revisiting this idea then, but right now we're just too few.

I like the idea of the few faires we have getting hostels and having a real place to meet other Wenches.

SHpepperKat
09-28-2009, 04:37 PM
I think that's exactly where we are. We just don't have enough warm bodies to make Oregon its own local. I think we're barely covered with how many NW wenches we have. I would love to see some day Oregon having 14 Wenches, or how ever many are needed to make it's own local. And I can see revisiting this idea then, but right now we're just too few.

I like the idea of the few faires we have getting hostels and having a real place to meet other Wenches.


I like it too. That way we can figure out where to meet at different events.

Lady Sarah
09-28-2009, 04:39 PM
Best of luck in finding a suitable place for the hostel. Just be forewarned that it might take a bit more time than you want. LOL You need to develop that 'relationship' with the shop owner and seasonal manager, and that's not always easy.

Seriously, Pepper, best of luck in finding a hostel.

SHpepperKat
09-28-2009, 05:16 PM
Best of luck in finding a suitable place for the hostel. Just be forewarned that it might take a bit more time than you want. LOL You need to develop that 'relationship' with the shop owner and seasonal manager, and that's not always easy.

Seriously, Pepper, best of luck in finding a hostel.


I don't expect that it will be an easy task as with the current location, everything is temporary. But we are working on it and if there's a place, we will find one. Where you have actual buildings there, we have pavilions and tents. So until the faire gets a more permenant location, we might not have a hostel. But if all else fails, there's always Ale House #1 as a great meeting place.

RaevynCait
09-28-2009, 06:30 PM
Just adding my .02 regarding the hostel situation.

We Local 13 wenches have not had a true hostel at either of our major faires (Scarby & TRF) for 2 years. We make do and manage to have meet and greets.
At Scarby, where I am most active, we have an area near one of the pubs where you can virtually ALWAYS find one or more Wenches and/or Rogues, visiting, drinking, eating, or whatever. During Parade, when we've gone to our usual spots, there is often someone who is not that interested in parade and is willing to watch over baskets, etc while the rest of us are gone. We try to post every year that location, and when we hear that someone is coming ot visit, we try to contact them and make sure they know exactly where to find us.

At TRF, we also have a usual location, however most of us that are very active at Scarby aren't at TRF every weekend, but we do try to announce both here and on the yahoo group when groups will be down there, especially when our Madame & Vice will be there, so we can arrange at least a meet & greet.

A fixed hostel, with a place to store water, ice, first aid supplies, and stuff we've purchased, but don't want to haul to the car midday is a wonderful thing to have, but is just not always possible. In my experience over the last couple of years, cultivating relationships with vendors (both shoppes and food/beverage) and other people who DO have facilities has worked out just fine for the most part, as we don't wind up with a lot of purchased stuff stacked around our tables. Most of the Scarby beverage vendors are willing to provide ice in your drinking vessel at no cost, and there is virtually ALWAYS a wench in our usual area who has first aid stuff in her basket. It is not a perfect solution, but we've managed to make it work quite well, AND, there is much more cameraderie with the "hostel" being out in the open, rather than behind a shoppe. Plus we don't have to worry about our presence disrupting business.

SHpepperKat
09-28-2009, 07:50 PM
Our faire here is still in the rebirth stage. So we are used to making do. We tend to congregate in the ale house as all adult beverages must be consumed there. Also that's where we can see and hear the lovely Miss Bonnie Strangways. Most of our vendors will hold purchases until cannon so we don't have to worry too much about having a place to store things that we purchase. It's the extra water and such that we worry about. The alehouse has ice for our bodice chillers, and the vendors are pretty good about sharing ice as well. As for first aid, this year I saw them more than ever but they have everything and then some and it is well staffed by very good people.

I personally don't think that right now we need a hostel per se. We can always arrange meetings as the gate should we end up with Wenches that are not 21. And we all love to wander and shop. So spending time is easy as well.

Most of us camp out and are planning to do that again next year. So we do have a place to put things as needed as well.

It would be nice at some point to have a specific place that is wench haven, but for now, I think it more important to work on our standing with management and just having fun.

Bonnie Strangeways
10-14-2009, 07:30 PM
Ooh, look at me dragging up a dead horse. *snicker*


1 - Congrats to the ladies that worked so hard to find a "home" for the ladies of the Pacific Northwest. It's nice to see a presence "catching on" up here.

2 - Insofar as the Oregon ladies establishing a Local of their own…I concur with all of the previous posters that establishing a Hotel at first at some of the events might be a better way to start out. Stormfeather, as someone who has been blessed with a naturally abrasive personality, let me attempt to express in the politest way that your initial posts here may have not painted you with the kindest brush. You came across as quite confused/confusing, and somewhat offensive to the very people that you are attempting to “recruit” to your cause.

As has been pointed out – if you are just looking to form a backyard clique full of like-minded women to hang out with at some local events – then you do not need a Local, nor go through all of the hassle/rigmarole to get one in place. (This is what it seems you are attempting?) If you want to toss in recruitment for the IWG in there…more power to you, but I would insert a word of caution. Encouraging ladies who embody the quality of Wench (see front page of IWG website if confused) to find us and join us is all well and good….finding every drunk hooker on the block and signing them up is not. Not as to say that you are…but the caution flag needs to be thrown.


You can take the commetns posted here by me and the others as "flaming" if you choose to...or you can take them as they were meant - constructive commetns geared towards clarification and helping you with your goal. Your choice.

Ysobelle
10-14-2009, 07:51 PM
Drat-- I meant to come back to this. There ARE two official Locals now, according to Lars: Oregon and Washington. Both applications were submitted almost at the same time. So y'all have lots 'o Wenchy fun out there!