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Ysobelle
11-10-2009, 05:36 PM
The Stupak-Pitts Amendment, thrown into the Healthcare Bill at the last minute as a sop to the Right, wold prohibit private insurance companies from providing coverage to women needing abortions. In other words, you could have your own coverage, with your own money, and still get screwed. As if having to get an abortion wasn't already horrible enough.

As the NARAL site states:


Call on Senate Leader Reid: Stop Abortion Coverage Ban

The House of Representatives passed health-reform legislation that included an anti-choice amendment that will seriously jeopardize women’s access to abortion.

The Stupak-Pitts amendment makes it virtually impossible for private insurance companies that participate in the new health system to offer abortion coverage to women.

This would have the effect of denying women the right to use their own personal, private funds to purchase an insurance plan with abortion coverage in the new health system.

We must stop health-care reform from being enacted with this ban!

Sign our petition calling on Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid to stand firm against a ban on abortion coverage for women in the new health system.


https://secure.prochoiceamerica.org/site/Advocacy?pagename=homepage&page=UserAction&id=4013&autologin=true&JServSessionIdr003=fiivalgmd3.app39a



Also, you can, if you're so inclined, sign another petition here at People For The American Way's site:

http://site.pfaw.org/Stupak-Pitts

LdyJhawk
11-10-2009, 08:11 PM
REPUBLICANS I AM DISAPPOINT!

Ugh

Until 100% of these people (usually men) have had to go through an unwanted pregnancy and the heartache and stress that ensues when a termination is decided on (and even if you knew from the little plus sign, there's still stress and frustration)....they can shove their backhanded misogynistic laws right up their ass

Blue Pixie
11-10-2009, 09:09 PM
REPUBLICANS I AM DISAPPOINT!

Ugh

Until 100% of these people (usually men) have had to go through an unwanted pregnancy and the heartache and stress that ensues when a termination is decided on (and even if you knew from the little plus sign, there's still stress and frustration)....they can shove their backhanded misogynistic laws right up their ass

You realize that only 1 republican voted for this bill.

http://www.mcall.com/news/nationworld/politics/sns-ap-us-house-rollcall-health-care,0,3669225.story

Gellis Indigo
11-11-2009, 09:49 AM
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Blue Pixie again.
Well pooh!

LdyJhawk
11-11-2009, 01:20 PM
So you are telling me only one republican at all ever voted for this or similar amendments? It's not a matter of the bill, it's a matter of the misogynistic morals police amendment tacked on.

Trust me, I don't know of many democrats who think Stupak is awesome for his shenanigans. I imagine there were plenty of democrats unhappy with this amendment yet willing to vote the bill in because in the end the good outweighed the moronic

prospero
11-11-2009, 01:39 PM
You realize that only 1 republican voted for this bill.

One republican voted for the healthcare bill. All but one voted for the aforementioned amendment and he just went with “present”.
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2009/roll884.xml
Regardless, it was a democrat from the fine state of Michigan who drafted and initially sponsored the amendment. His purpose was to ensure that the restrictions from the Hyde Amendment (way back in 1976) were also going to be applied to the new healthcare bill.
Here’s a pretty good breakdown of it. Yeah it’s NPR, but I’m a hippy so I listen every day.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=120251035

LdyJhawk
11-11-2009, 02:25 PM
One republican voted for the healthcare bill. All but one voted for the aforementioned amendment and he just went with “present”.
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2009/roll884.xml
Regardless, it was a democrat from the fine state of Michigan who drafted and initially sponsored the amendment. His purpose was to ensure that the restrictions from the Hyde Amendment (way back in 1976) were also going to be applied to the new healthcare bill.
Here’s a pretty good breakdown of it. Yeah it’s NPR, but I’m a hippy so I listen every day.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=120251035

But..but.. they'll let women who want to pay extra for insurance add ons that will cover abortion! Because I know I want to pay extra every single month on the OFF CHANCE I find myself with an unwanted pregnancy. It's already bad enough that I pay 300 a month for an insurance company to do all it can to not cover what it says it will...

Ugh

Blue Pixie
11-11-2009, 08:22 PM
So you are telling me only one republican at all ever voted for this or similar amendments? It's not a matter of the bill, it's a matter of the misogynistic morals police amendment tacked on.

Trust me, I don't know of many democrats who think Stupak is awesome for his shenanigans. I imagine there were plenty of democrats unhappy with this amendment yet willing to vote the bill in because in the end the good outweighed the moronic

First off, we're talking about this bill and I just stated a fact. Second- I'm hearing that there are a few little add ons that don't sound right to me (like you have to pay higher rates if you own a gun- heard this from a hunter friend who was pissed btw). I also have other issue but it has nothing to do with this issue about this bill.

LdyJhawk
11-11-2009, 09:45 PM
First off, we're talking about this bill and I just stated a fact. Second- I'm hearing that there are a few little add ons that don't sound right to me (like you have to pay higher rates if you own a gun- heard this from a hunter friend who was pissed btw). I also have other issue but it has nothing to do with this issue about this bill.

Actually, to split hairs..this topic is entirely about the Stupak-Pitts Amendment. There's an entire topic for the entirety of the bill