If I could, I would kill him with my bare hands...

[Dmitri]

Take him outside, put a bullet in his head... And think no more of him. I weep for the family of the little girl.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=1847662

Story from another place:

PURCELL, Okla. (AP) - The body of a 10-year-old girl was found in a plastic tub in her neighbor's closet, and police said her death was part of his elaborate plan to eat human flesh.

Jamie Rose Bolin had deep saw marks on her neck and was apparently hit several times with a wooden cutting board, Purcell police Chief David Tompkins said. Agents removed meat tenderizer and barbecue skewers from his apartment, one floor down from where the girl lived with her father.

``Regarding a potential motive,'' Tompkins said, ``this appears to have been part of a plan to kidnap a person, rape them, torture them, kill them, cut off their head, drain the body of blood, rape the corpse, eat the corpse, then dispose of the organs and bones.''

Kevin Ray Underwood, 26, was arrested Friday after investigators found Jamie's body in the closet of a bedroom in his apartment, authorities said. The girl's unclothed body was inside a large plastic tub, along with a towel used to soak up blood, officials said.

Police would not say whether Underwood confessed to the slaying. The district attorney planned to file first-degree murder charges Monday and said he would seek the death penalty.

``This does not appear to be a spur-of-the-moment crime of opportunity but a well-thought-out, premeditated act with months of planning and preparation,'' McClain County District Attorney Tim Kuykendall said.

Underwood was being held at the McClain County Jail on a complaint of first-degree murder, a jail official said. It was not immediately known whether he had a lawyer.

Jamie, a freckled-face, red-haired girl who liked to play with Barbie dolls, was last seen Wednesday at the library in Purcell, about 20 miles south of Oklahoma City.

She knew Underwood, who would entertain her with his pet rat on his shoulder, Kuykendall said. The night before her disappearance, Underwood offered to let her use the telephone to order a pizza, the prosecutor said.

Investigators believe she died Wednesday, after being hit several times with a wooden cutting board, then suffocated with duct tape and her killer's hand. She was sexually assaulted after she died, officials said.

A preliminary autopsy report said the girl died from blunt force trauma to the head and asphyxiation.

``Jamie was in the apartment below us the whole time,'' said Rose Fox, Jamie's grandmother.

Underwood said he began fantasizing about eating someone a year ago, Kuykendall said. The prosecutor added that authorities believe ``that while she was ultimately chosen to be the victim of this horrific crime, that other people had been targeted and considered,'' including a a woman and a 5-year-old boy.

Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation agents seized a decorative dagger, a hack saw, duct tape, meat tenderizer, barbecue skewers, a duffel bag, the cutting board, a computer, and a videotape about a serial killer, Tompkins said.

Jamie lived upstairs in an apartment with her father, Curtis Bolin, an auto mechanic, her grandmother said. Jamie's mother, Jenny, is a truck driver in Oklahoma City. The couple separated several years ago, Fox said.

The child's father remained under sedation.

``His whole life revolved around Jamie,'' Fox said. ``He didn't go out and party. He didn't drink or smoke. This has probably destroyed him.''

[Buxom Wench]

Take him outside, put a bullet in his head... And think no more of him. I weep for the family of the little girl.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=1847662

I'm with you on this 100%, D.

[Lady Sarah]

Oh god.... oh god, oh god, oh god...

I'm closer, I could get to him before you could.

[MaidenFaeSnow]

What frightens me is, this is a case we're actually hearing about...

How many more sickos are out there (while so many activists are concerned with the sickos welfare and rehibilitation that puts them back on the streets to do it again.)

It's absolutely horrifying when the best part of an article is the part were you learn that she died BEFORE she was sexually assaulted.

What time does the posse leave?????

[Lady Laurel]

You just never know who your nieghbors are. This guy is beyond sick. I saw this on the new Saturday we were all horrified.

[Tink]

I'm with you on this D. There is no rehabilitation with this type of criminal. They're like rabid animals and there is no cure. Why risk the chance of them getting out someday on good behavior or after they've served their sentence (as if anything, but life would do...)? BULLSHIT. I don't want these animals released back into the world. Speaking of life sentences.... Nope. Why feed and house them? Bullet, 6 foot hole and forget them.

[Ysobelle]

One quick note: I don't know ANY "activist" who would advocate putting this man out on the streets again.


I cannot imagine how the father will live the rest of his life knowing what happened. My G-d.

[willow of the wooded fortress]

Why stop at one bullet? I'm with you on this one Dmitri.Just horrible.

[Buxom Wench]

Why stop at one bullet? I'm with you on this one Dmitri.Just horrible.


Because with the right bullet in the right spot, you waste no extra time on scum such as this.

[willow of the wooded fortress]

You are right Buxom Wench, it's just the anger speaking. Just venting....My Aunt was murdered in the 70's so I suppose I get a bit revenge minded when I hear these things.

[ambar]

I'm in on the possee. This guy needs to go away. Forever. That is just sick! Children should be safe and protected and shouldn't have to worry about people like this.

[I'Cin]

I vote for slow roasting on a spit over an open fire.

Its just too horrible. And one news story said that one of the things he spent a lot of time doing was playing "Kingdom of Loathing" which my oldest daughter (who some of you might know) has been playing -- and I think my son has played as well. And while I know its a long way from OK to NC or MD, it really does just bring it a little closer to home, and reminds me that you just really don't know who's out there.

I'Cin

[Cyranno DeBoberac]

And one news story said that one of the things he spent a lot of time doing was playing "Kingdom of Loathing"
Ohhhhhh crap.

And the countdown to the inevitable "backlash-against-video-games-because-society-can't-survive-without-blaming something" begins..... :irked:

[Buxom Wench]

Ohhhhhh crap.

And the countdown to the inevitable "backlash-against-video-games-because-society-can't-survive-without-blaming something" begins..... :irked:


uh Bob, hate to break it to you sweets but, its already happened before and probably will for eternity.:unamused:

[Cyranno DeBoberac]

uh Bob, hate to break it to you sweets but, its already happened before and probably will for eternity.:unamused:
Well, yeah. I just meant the latest round of it. Activity along those lines tends to spike after a high-profile tragedy that can even tangentially be linked to a video game.

24/7, it's mainly just the crackpots like Jack Thompson doing the bleating, but after something like this, the politicians come out of the woodwork in order to raise their name recognition and gamers start getting treated like up-and-coming serial killers.... http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/2971/364si.gif

[Reaver]

Sweet Jesus mercy................

Not to get all Medieval.....but this isn't video games, OR society, OR violence on TV, OR a terrible upbringing. This is evil....pure unadulterated evil....and this filth would have dreamt this up himself with no influences.

A bullet or throttling is too quick for this vermin, guys. And Prison?????? Not on my dime. This is one that if the Savak were still around they'd strip every square inch of skin off him and dump salt all over him. THAT'S the slow mind-searing agony and painful death this thing deserves.

S the R.
SCM

[Dmitri]

Why stop at one bullet? I'm with you on this one Dmitri.Just horrible.

At first I agree... The *father* in me screams for vengenence... Had this been Katya, he would not have made it to court. Between me and my friends on both sides of the law... Sadly, there is nothing that we could do to the monster that could possibly be an atonement for the crime he commited on this girl. But no amount of pain, no amount of roasting torture will bring that little girl back.

It's times like this that I wish I was a Christian and believed in hell. But for that family, hell exists now... Daily. For the rest of their life. But an least she is at peace, her pain is over.

Her father's anguish has just begun. I know that I would be suicidal... and anyone who knows me knows my veiws suicide.

But I'll settle for the 39¢ bullet. Then bill his family for it.

[Reaver]

But I'll settle for the 39¢ bullet. Then bill his family for it.

Like the Chinese do, Bro. One trial....one appeal.....execution within 30 days of the final conviction......... a .22 to the back of the head and send out the bill.

Barbarous???? Yes. Antiquated???? Yup. Cruel???????? To who...the murderous Criminal?????? Effective?????? When was the last time you heard about anything like this in China???????

S the R
SCM

[Dmitri]

When was the last time you heard about anything like this in China???????

Well, do we include systematic killing of female babies because the governement only allows you to have one? But serial killers? no...

[Reaver]

Well, do we include systematic killing of female babies because the governement only allows you to have one? But serial killers? no...


Yes......we're talking Criminal/Penal Law here... not population control/H.H.S. law.

S the R
SCM

[Cyranno DeBoberac]

When was the last time you heard about anything like this in China?
You mean, in the state controlled media over there? :wink:

[Psyche]

While I would love to kill him with my bare hands, I think they should let him into General Population and let them know what he did. GP took care of Jeffrey Dahmer, they can take care of him too.

[Cerulean Fire]

[quote=Dmitri]Take him outside, put a bullet in his head... And think no more of him. I weep for the family of the little girl.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=1847662


Can't even begin to think of what I would do to him.... And he lived right up stairs?!?!
OMG!
I think the bullet thing might not be good enough... its a lil fast and much too painless.

[Winifred Baskerville]

Take him outside, put a bullet in his head... And think no more of him. I weep for the family of the little girl.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=1847662


Can't even begin to think of what I would do to him.... And he lived right up stairs?!?!
OMG!
I think the bullet thing might not be good enough... its a lil fast and much too painless.

Buckshot?

There's a bad taste in my mouth...

[Pathos]

I think the bullet thing might not be good enough... its a lil fast and much too painless.
Ah yes but a bullet to the back of the head would be justice.

Anything more painful would be vengeance which...with few exceptions...nothing good can come from.

[Cyranno DeBoberac]

Buckshot?

You rang?

http://radar.smh.com.au/archives/cheney.jpg

:-D

[Lady Sarah]

Buckshot?

There's a bad taste in my mouth...

Nope. hand loaded cartridge of birdshot and rock salt. it won't kill him but goddamn will it hurt like hell.

[Bonnie Strangeways]

I'm with Psyche on this folks......GP *loathes* any abuse against children....I say let them at him. I highly doubt this filth will make it to execution day, not unless they put him on an express lane bus. I don't even think solitary confinement will be enough to save this guy......I think the guards will get him.

[Pathos]

I'm with Psyche on this folks......GP *loathes* any abuse against children....I say let them at him.
Don't count on it.

They put Richard Hatch from Survivor in protective custody.

And we all know how much danger he was in.

:roll:

[Mistress Lisette]

Honestly, the mom in me cries out for torturing the SOB a long, long time. Then finish him off with a bullet in his head. Barbaric, yeah, but I'd feel a helluva lot better...

[Psyche]

Don't count on it.

They put Richard Hatch from Survivor in protective custody.

And we all know how much danger he was in.

:roll: Unfortunately Richard Hatch qualifies for 'celebrity' status, which means protective custody is pretty much the norm.

He also should not be in a maximum security prison, whereas Underwood would definitely qualify, and protective custody in max sec tends to be a LOT different.

[Margaret]

Oh my God. I am typing this not having read the past for pages. Oh my God. I look over at my 7 year old playing on the computer right now and I can't even imagine what I would be like if this happened to her.

The horror of having a child killed in a stupid accident is bad enough but this is... there really are no words.

[biker]

I need to go home and hug my kids now.

[Pathos]

Unfortunately Richard Hatch qualifies for 'celebrity' status Truer words have never been spoken.

:toocool:

[MaidenFaeSnow]

One quick note: I don't know ANY "activist" who would advocate putting this man out on the streets again.


I cannot imagine how the father will live the rest of his life knowing what happened. My G-d.

I personally know several. Time spent contacting political figures etc. in hopes to change laws where they feel needed, to rehab nasty people because they 'deserve' a second chance too no matter where they went wrong.

It blows my mind. My response was "would you feel the same if it were a member of your family these things happened to???"

[Cerulean Fire]

Ah yes but a bullet to the back of the head would be justice.

Anything more painful would be vengeance which...with few exceptions...nothing good can come from.


Vengence... nah... all I was trying to say was that his victum suffered... shouldn't he? I know, Karma and all that. Ok ok, so how about fairness? How about we sell him to a tribe that still practices canabalism?
Then again I think some one mentioned putting him in with the gereral population... that might not be such a bad thing.

[Aramis]

Give the father a baseball bat studded with nails and unlimited time alone with this piece of shit.


That would be justice.

[Pathos]

Give the father a baseball bat studded with nails and unlimited time alone with this piece of shit.


That would be justice. No...that would be revenge.

Which is another thing entirely.

[Alianne]

One quick note: I don't know ANY "activist" who would advocate putting this man out on the streets again.

The sheer heinousness of this particular crime aside, why should anyone who commits premeditated murder be allowed to have things they denied their victims?

Things like food, water, the ability to think, imagine, dream. To see their families from time to time. To walk, talk, read.

Why do they get even those most basic things when they *chose* to take another human being's life?

Screw putting people like this away for life. They still get *to live*.

Death sentence. One appeal, that's it.

Sorry, I feel strongly about this. My feelings aren't going to change.

[MaidenFaeSnow]

The sheer heinousness of this particular crime aside, why should anyone who commits premeditated murder be allowed to have things they denied their victims?

Things like food, water, the ability to think, imagine, dream. To see their families from time to time. To walk, talk, read.

Why do they get even those most basic things when they *chose* to take another human being's life?

Screw putting people like this away for life. They still get *to live*.

Death sentence. One appeal, that's it.

Sorry, I feel strongly about this. My feelings aren't going to change.

HUZZAH!

[ladyleggs]

Let's just hope that this sicko has been thinking about doing this for a very long time, but he never acted on it and this is his first and last. I would hate to think there are many others he has killed that we dont know about. I too grieve for the family. I always said, if anyone messed with my son's, I would handle it my way, cause we all know there is not enough justice in the court system.

[Buxom Wench]

Let's just hope that this sicko has been thinking about doing this for a very long time, but he never acted on it and this is his first and last. I would hate to think there are many others he has killed that we dont know about. I too grieve for the family. I always said, if anyone messed with my son's, I would handle it my way, cause we all know there is not enough justice in the court system.
Yup, I'd do excactly the same. No court could ever punish someone like that enough for me.

[Margaret]

To illustrate from a Terry Pratchet book:

Sam Vimes, Commander of the Watch and soon to be father, has been chasing a psycho killer through space and time. This guy has killed will no remorse and now has threatened Vime's family. Sam eventually catches the bad guy and supresses the urge to rip him limb from limb. With his hands shaking with the urge to beat this guys sensless and through grited teeth, Sam reads him his rights and follows procedure. When the bad guys asks why, Sam replies: "We are doing this nice and legal. We will follow the rules. I am not going to give you one loophole to slip out of. I will do my job and then the court will do theirs. And I will be there when they hang you." (paraphrased)

Yes, espically with this guy, vigilante justice is the first gutcheck reaction. But by doing everything nice and legal, the wheels of the system will turn and the scum will be sentanced. Justice will be done nice and legal. Scumbag will be taken to GP. And someday, some inmate will find an extra pudding cup with his lunch. And at a certain time, everyone will look away for some time and not notice how scumbag died or who did it.

[Dmitri]

Give the father a baseball bat studded with nails and unlimited time alone with this piece of shit.

GODS NO!!!! Never let the father get to him...

Then for the rest of his life he'll know no matter what he did... No matter what pain he caused... what act of vengence he inflicted... It wouldn't let his heart rest... that he could beat him forever and it would never bring his little girl back...

It would only make his pain worse... I wouldn't even let him near weapons of any kind... Just because I know what I'd do with them...

[rosefaeries]

The sheer heinousness of this particular crime aside, why should anyone who commits premeditated murder be allowed to have things they denied their victims?

Things like food, water, the ability to think, imagine, dream. To see their families from time to time. To walk, talk, read.

Why do they get even those most basic things when they *chose* to take another human being's life?

Screw putting people like this away for life. They still get *to live*.

Death sentence. One appeal, that's it.

Sorry, I feel strongly about this. My feelings aren't going to change.


There is no need to apologize for that.

[Pansy Faye]

............. Death sentence. One appeal, that's it.

Sorry, I feel strongly about this. My feelings aren't going to change.

No need to be sorry. I agree. and just to change your thought here?
Death sentence - NO appeal. They had their day in court. Why should MY tax dollars pay for him to appeal and appeal and appeal. You get one jury trial and then that's it.

My feelings.

[Aramis]

GODS NO!!!! Never let the father get to him...

Then for the rest of his life he'll know no matter what he did... No matter what pain he caused... what act of vengence he inflicted... It wouldn't let his heart rest... that he could beat him forever and it would never bring his little girl back...

It would only make his pain worse... I wouldn't even let him near weapons of any kind... Just because I know what I'd do with them...


Touche'.


Upon reflection, you might be right.

But I still think that this pice of shit needs to die. No appeals, no trial, just death.

I can heard it now, "But this is America, he deserves a trial"

Bullshit. Did he give that poor girl a chance to live?

No. So why should he get that courtesy?

[Pathos]

But I still think that this pice of shit needs to die. No appeals, no trial, just death.

I can heard it now, "But this is America, he deserves a trial"

Bullshit. Did he give that poor girl a chance to live?

No. So why should he get that courtesy?
Because we're not animals like he is Dude, that's why.

[Ysobelle]

Because we're not animals like he is Dude, that's why.


Well, so much for my reply. That about sums it up, right there.

[Lady Sarah]

Because we're not animals like he is Dude, that's why.

So, because we're not the animals he is, he's going to possibly skate by with a likely mental defense and spend the rest of his life on our dime in a psych ward?

No, Pathos, we're not animals. But, how many times do we turn the cheek and hide behind the cloak of Civilized people before we get fed up with animals like this? What he did and what he planned to do don't equal a reason to let him live.

When is enough enough? it's become obvious that we can't deter crime - the criminals laugh and bide their time until they get out. and while they bide their time, they're treated better than most people on the street. Granted, a 6 by 6 isn't the Ritz, but it's better than some have and they're fed every day. If they get sick or need serious medical attention, we can't execute them until they're healthy. They're treated to a library, contact with the outside world... etc. etc. etc.

America has the best justice system that money can buy and lately the criminals have more rights than the victims do. REAL justice for this man isn't a trial or psychiatrists bickering back and forth over whether or not he's competent to stand trial. I don't personally care if he knows what he did is right or wrong. He killed that little girl, committed necrophelia and planned necrophagia. Real Justice, in my eyes is a bullet between his.

[Dmitri]

Because we're not animals like he is Dude, that's why.

speak for your self... were it my daughter I would want to kill him. but don't put me in a room with a gun and two bullets... I'd use them both.

[Pathos]

speak for your self... were it my daughter I would want to kill him. but don't put me in a room with a gun and two bullets... I'd use them both.
To make sure he's dead I hope.

[rosefaeries]

Because we're not animals like he is Dude, that's why.


Rabid animals are put down for the safety of others. Animals that have attacked others are put down for the safety of others.

[Pathos]

Rabid animals are put down for the safety of others. Animals that have attacked others are put down for the safety of others.
I'm not debating that. A bullet to the guys head would be justice...as I said before.

But only after a trial and due process of law.

[Dmitri]

To make sure he's dead I hope.

Haven't seen me with my daughetr have you... I actually lost sleep last night thinking about the father of this little girl... I was very glad for Vel's company.

[Psyche]

Haven't seen me with my daughetr have you... I actually lost sleep last night thinking about the father of this little girl... I was very glad for Vel's company. I completely understand.

[biker]

Haven't seen me with my daughetr have you... I actually lost sleep last night thinking about the father of this little girl... I was very glad for Vel's company.

No D I haven't. I imagine its about the same has I am with Niko and Sadie. It sickens me that the courts will more then likely let him go to someplace like a mental institute for a few years though.

Pathos, no we are not animals, but this act wasn't the act of a human either.

[Krystal Moon]

While I would love to kill him with my bare hands, I think they should let him into General Population and let them know what he did. GP took care of Jeffrey Dahmer, they can take care of him too.

I'm totally up for a public stoning in the town square.

[Pathos]

Pathos, no we are not animals, but this act wasn't the act of a human either.
Exactly. All the more reason we can't become animals ourselves in dealing with it.

[Tink]

Exactly. All the more reason we can't become animals ourselves in dealing with it.

Pathos....depsite the sick punishment ideas posted here. I think all anyone truly wants is the guy dead. NOT locked up in a mental ward or in prison with free meals and therapeutic art classes for life. As I believe you concur with.... after a trial. (Although seems a waste of time given the evidence. BUT this is the U.S. and he will get his day in court. I wonder what attorney will rep him. Don't get me started on *that* topic...)

When people post the sick ideas, they do it because to say he should just get a quick and clean death seems pretty unjust given that his victim suffered and her family still does. If it makes them animals, I say they are a different breed of animal. However, let's get away from using animal....

I ammend my original statement that likened this guy to an animal because animals don't do what this guy did. Animals don't kill for pleasure or perversion.

Reaver had it right.... The guy is PURE EVIL. DEATH is the cure.

[biker]

Exactly. All the more reason we can't become animals ourselves in dealing with it.

Sometimes in my eyes, one must become a bit evil to get rid of the real evil.

I doubt we will ever agree on this subject, BUT I will always support your right to your opinion, whether I agree with it or not.

[Alianne]

No need to be sorry. I agree. and just to change your thought here?
Death sentence - NO appeal. They had their day in court. Why should MY tax dollars pay for him to appeal and appeal and appeal. You get one jury trial and then that's it.

My feelings.

I do believe in the judicial process. I do believe that there *are* times when mistakes can and have been made. The convicted being should be allowed one opportunity to make that case....but only *one*. No dragging out appeals forever....*one*, and one only. If you can't make your assertion of whatever survive one appeal, tough shit. You had your chance.

[Ysobelle]

If our judicial system were perfect, I'd agree with y'all. But it's not. And while yes, this guy is clearly guilty and should suffer, not every man (or woman) sentenced to death is always guilty. What about the convicted murderer whose sentence is overturned when DNA testing becomes available and he turns out to be innocent? What about the witnesses who decide to come forward years later? There's a reason why "rush to judgement" is a negative phrase. Everyone sentenced to death gets an automatic appeal. And we don't get to pick and choose who gets one set of rules and who gets another.

[Alianne]

If our judicial system were perfect, I'd agree with y'all. But it's not. And while yes, this guy is clearly guilty and should suffer, not every man (or woman) sentenced to death is always guilty. What about the convicted murderer whose sentence is overturned when DNA testing becomes available and he turns out to be innocent? What about the witnesses who decide to come forward years later? There's a reason why "rush to judgement" is a negative phrase. Everyone sentenced to death gets an automatic appeal. And we don't get to pick and choose who gets one set of rules and who gets another.

But is the DNA issue so much a problem with those who are convicted *now*? Years ago, when the technology wasn't available, it makes for a valid concern.

But now, when DNA testing appears to be pretty much standard in cases like this, it's less of an argument for allowing drawn out appeal after appeal after appeal.

But like I've said before, this is just something where my feelings aren't going to change...and as a homicide survivor, they shouldn't have to. It's not something I'd want to wish on anyone.

[MaidenFaeSnow]

The average time spent on death row is 14 years. 14 years of tax payers dollars being spent to support someone who has been sentenced to DEATH for a crime they have been proven, beyond a shadow of a doubt, to have committed. And isn't that all that had to be proven, that the perp committed the crime beyond a shadow of a doubt??

If that was proven, should it be the responsibility of the justice system (or the tax payers) to wait for the avg. 14 years for a late witness to finally come forward?

As far as I'm concerned, there should be a statute of limitations on the length of time within which a witness CAN come forward following a case and sentencing, then, when someone has been sentenced to death and that time has passed MOVE FORWARD with the sentence.

[Draca]

In the paper last night, I saw that this waste of human flesh actually entered a plea of "not guilty." What scares me more then anything is how many lawyers are going to want to handle his case just for the publicity of it.

[Tink]

In the paper last night, I saw that this waste of human flesh actually entered a plea of "not guilty." What scares me more then anything is how many lawyers are going to want to handle his case just for the publicity of it.

What paper was that in?

My guess is he is going to try for an insanity plea. Sad thing is, he'll probably get it because most logical and sane people cannot fathom that anyone sane would do such a thing so they'll stamp him with that label.

Now here's where my opinion takes that....there is no cure for *that* kind of insanity. So it irks me (to put it mildly) that the family will have to go through a long, drawn out trial that will end up placing the human waste in a tax funded facility for life (we'd hope it would be life). Taxes that her family pays, so they will be paying to feed, house, coddle and "cure" the killer of their little girl.

Now *that* my friends is SICK.

[Dmitri]

What paper was that in?

My guess is he is going to try for an insanity plea. Sad thing is, he'll probably get it because most logical and sane people cannot fathom that anyone sane would do such a thing so they'll stamp him with that label.

Now here's where my opinion takes that....there is no cure for *that* kind of insanity. So it irks me (to put it mildly) that the family will have to go through a long, drawn out trial that will end up placing the human waste in a tax funded facility for life (we'd hope it would be life). Taxes that her family pays, so they will be paying to feed, house, coddle and "cure" the killer of their little girl.

Now *that* my friends is SICK.

Dahmer tried the insanity ploy... didn't work... This guy planned it and covered it up. The insanity plea will be thrown out... Barely ANYONE files a guilty plea... his counsel told him to fight it... they will try and get him life... the prosecution with try and get the death penalty

[Mistress Lisette]

What paper was that in?

My guess is he is going to try for an insanity plea. Sad thing is, he'll probably get it because most logical and sane people cannot fathom that anyone sane would do such a thing so they'll stamp him with that label.
I'm with Reaver here; this person's actions were just plain evil. I honestly get sick and tired when the courts try to pathologize evil by calling it mental illness. One of my sisters is mentally ill--she's paranoid schizophrenic--yet she takes responsibility for her actions and is desperately trying to get well. Nor would she commit such a monstrous act as this jerk did, and others who hide behind the insanity defense. Okay, this is beyond a pet peeve of mine when people automatically lump evil behavior under mental illness--particularly when those who commit such horrific acts are the ones calling themselves mentally ill thereby needing the insanity defense.

[Tink]

Dahmer tried the insanity ploy... didn't work... This guy planned it and covered it up. The insanity plea will be thrown out... Barely ANYONE files a guilty plea... his counsel told him to fight it... they will try and get him life... the prosecution with try and get the death penalty

Ya know D....I was thinking that because it was premeditated he won't be able to plead insanity. I seem to recall another case where insanity was thrown out because the judge felt that premeditation shows an ability to think and plan for consequences which an insane person just doesn't do.

As for not guilty. Yeah you're right, that's what they all plead otherwise there's no defending them.

[LdyJhawk]

He'll go to prison, and he'll be protected. It won't be a great life but he'll have tv and a bed and time to think and time in general and that disgusts me. What that man did proves premeditation.

In situations like this I truly wish there was a "right to humanity" card. What he did pushed him beyond human to me. He is not human. He is an animal that turned on a human and just like any other animal that turns he needs to be put down.

Give him his day in court sure, but in the end ENFORCE his sentence. Don't allow him to gain celeb status and somehow find jesus in a jail cell then decide he's going to be a spokesman for some cause...because then you have idiots with signs and other celebrities standing outside his door in front of a microphone pleading with governers for stays of execution. Someone who has murdered and who is found truly guilty beyond any reason or shadow of a doubt does not deserve fame or some sick shit's fandom (and it will happen, just you wait. Some man or woman will decide they can change him and are in love with him and will moon and whine). They deserve elimination.

The fact that he did it to a child is horrid..the fact that he did it at ALL to anyone is just a level of evil that is nearly impossible to comprehend