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Buxom Wench
08-22-2006, 08:44 PM
Report: Paramount Terminate's Tom Cruise's Contract
http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/Business/story?id=2344327&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312
Report: Paramount Terminate's Tom Cruise's Contract
Citing Erratic Behavior, Paramount Ends Its Relationship With Tom Cruise, According to The Wall Street Journal
Aug. 22, 2006 - A Wall Street Journal story released late today said Paramount Pictures is terminating its 14-year relationship with Tom Cruise, in part because of the actor's erratic behavior over the past year.
"As much as we like him personally, we thought it was wrong to renew his deal," Viacom Inc. Chairman Sumner Redstone told The Wall Street Journal. "His recent conduct has not been acceptable to Paramount."
Viacom is the parent company of Paramount.
Cruise, one of the most successful movie stars of all time, has starred in "Top Gun," "Rain Man" and three "Mission: Impossible" movies. The Journal story says the actor's moviemaking company, Cruise/Wagner Productions, has been located on the Paramount lot since 1992.
But increasingly unusual behavior during the past year, including a famous stint jumping on Oprah Winfrey's couch while explaining his relationship with actress Katie Holmes, has drawn questionable reactions from the press and public. Cruise has also become increasingly vocal about his involvement with the controversial Church of Scientology.
The Journal story said Paramount believes that Cruise's behavior hurt box-office receipts of the most recent "Mission: Impossible" movie, which was released in May.
A spokeswoman for Cruise/Wagner Productions declined to comment on the Journal story.
Vixynne Rose
08-22-2006, 08:49 PM
Wow.
Took 'em long enough! I wonder what was the straw that broke the Paramount camel's back...the comments against antidepressants? The crazed couch-jumping? Or the slightly-glassy-eyed smile his bride seems to sport no matter what he does?
Kudos to Paramount for not being afraid to let go of this particular cash cow.
Buxom Wench
08-22-2006, 08:53 PM
Wow.
Took 'em long enough! I wonder what was the straw that broke the Paramount camel's back...the comments against antidepressants? The crazed couch-jumping? Or the slightly-glassy-eyed smile his bride seems to sport no matter what he does?
Kudos to Paramount for not being afraid to let go of this particular cash cow.
I think this line says it all....."The Journal story said Paramount believes that Cruise's behavior hurt box-office receipts of the most recent "Mission: Impossible" movie, which was released in May."
Peaches O Malley
08-22-2006, 09:37 PM
A LITTLE?? That mans elevator hasn't gone all the way up for years.
He's a slice of bread short of a sandwich or "he aint all there is he?"*rotfl*
Pathos
08-22-2006, 09:54 PM
I think this line says it all....."The Journal story said Paramount believes that Cruise's behavior hurt box-office receipts of the most recent "Mission: Impossible" movie, which was released in May." So...thats like what? 12 hits in a row and one modest flop?
I guess it really is a case of "What have you done for me lately?"
Edited for punctuation.
Don't forget "Eyes Wide Shut"........ not so much for the box office, and what was the movie with Penelope Cruz? "Vanilla Sky"? He's had a couple of mediocre ones lately, even "Minority Report" wasn't as big as hoped.
And does it frighten anybody else besides me that I knew these movies?! I guess I could chalk it up to my 15 year subscription to Entertainment Weekly..............
Pathos
08-22-2006, 10:12 PM
Don't forget "Eyes Wide Shut"........ not so much for the box office, and what was the movie with Penelope Cruz? "Vanilla Sky"? He's had a couple of mediocre ones lately, even "Minority Report" wasn't as big as hoped.
All three of those made big money in the long run. Every one had the "Oh it's such big news I have to go see it" factor. All 3 were nominated for tons of awards.
The only movie he's done in the past DECADE that didn't make money was "The Last Samurai." Which was a pretty good movie if you could get past the fact it was basically "Dances With Wolves" with an oriental setting.
daBaroness
08-22-2006, 11:49 PM
It's not just Mission Impossible that flopped - let us not forget War of the Worlds - the picture he was supposed to be promoting when he popped a gasket on Oprah's sofa. I wasn't that crazy about his acting to begin with - dating back to the very beginning. I gave him a chance in The Last Samurai and that was mediocre at best. I said back when War of the Worlds opened that it was going to be a flop because Cruise wasn't promoting the movie - he was promoting himself and his cockamamie religion. The fact he lambasted other female celebrities for having post-partum depression, picked a fight on Today and has basically kidnapped and brainwashed his child bride-to-be - surrounding her with Scientology chaperones 24/7 doesn't do anything to endear him to anyone. But I'm sure with the ROI (return on investment) from War of the Worlds and MI3 - especially when they'd been so highly touted - had everything to do with why Paramount dumped him. Frankly, had I been at the helm, I'd have dumped him 18 months ago.
The best thing about Tom Cruise was his former wife, Nicole Kidman. May she find happiness and (not just a little) sweet revenge with Keith Urban.
Pathos
08-23-2006, 12:06 AM
It's not just Mission Impossible that flopped - let us not forget War of the Worlds Um..."War of the Worlds" made over half a BILLION dollars. It was one of the top money makers of '05.
If you're taking credit for predicting that movies flop...well then...you're not a very good psychic.
:wink:
renren
08-23-2006, 12:10 AM
About time! Now his new bride needs to hop on that bandwagon!
Ysobelle
08-23-2006, 02:22 AM
What happened to their kid?
And yeah, once he went off on depression, I was over him. Brooke Shields, on the other hand, shot up in my estimation.
Not that either of them particularly care, I suppose.
Buxom Wench
08-23-2006, 05:49 AM
Just a bit more...
I've never been a Tom Cruise fan. He just gave me the 'heebee jeebees" everytime I saw him on tv or where ever. I avoided movies with him in them BECAUSE he was in them. I think it all started with "Risky Business". I just felt he was too into himself.
Torra
08-23-2006, 06:48 AM
I cast my vote with Bux. Tommy boy has too much of a weird mass-murderer vibe. The couch jumping thing was quite memorable but I don't think it's entirely the income they're getting from just one movie. He still makes money for them, but it's a result of the bad publicity he causes. My feeling is that the Paramount honchos didn't want people to go see MI3 and War of the Worlds to "see that crazy guy," they wanted people to go see the movies that were supposed to be good. Keeping Tom Cruise would result in people going to see the movies only in the hopes that some of the insanity leaks through onto the screen. Being tied to that could be perceived to be harmful to the company's publicity. And as for War of the Worlds making money, I personally think it was Dakota Fanning that made the money for that movie. Not necessarily for the acting either - it's the child actor cuteness factor.
willow of the wooded fortress
08-23-2006, 07:58 AM
I must confess I was a major Tom Cruise fan ever since his few lines he had in Endless Love with Brooke Sheilds and Taps, which I saw 100 times. However, he has become more of an ass and a freak over the last number of years and since his comments about depression and Brooke Sheilds I can't stand to hear his obnoxious crazy voice. It's sad to see someone so talented "go round the bend".
DoņaNina
08-23-2006, 09:34 AM
Wow.
the comments against antidepressants?
Seeing as how he's a woman, was once pregnant and gave birth, he's got all the right in the world to say that post partum depression doesn't exist. He's an expert on psychology, after all. See what going off of medicine did for him?
Luciana
08-23-2006, 10:23 AM
All three of those made big money in the long run. Every one had the "Oh it's such big news I have to go see it" factor. All 3 were nominated for tons of awards.
The only movie he's done in the past DECADE that didn't make money was "The Last Samurai." Which was a pretty good movie if you could get past the fact it was basically "Dances With Wolves" with an oriental setting.
In fact, in the long line of films he made "The Last Samurai" I think it was one of the best. I'm sorry to say but "War of the Worlds" was one movie I was happy I did not bother to pay to see it at the movie theatre.
DoņaNina
08-23-2006, 10:29 AM
In fact, in the long line of films he made "The Last Samurai" I think it was one of the best.
I agree. I loved The Last Samurai. It was way more historically accurate than Memoirs of a Geisha, which broke my heart like no film ever has.
Dmitri
08-23-2006, 10:30 AM
Never been a big Cruise fan...
LOVED Legend... (natch)
But ever since the EXTREMELY homoerotic "Topgun" I've just thought he was a girl's actor... put in specifically for the chicks... no real acting ability to speak of...
Then he was decent in the Last Samurai... He didn't ruin what was a great movie...
Selena
08-23-2006, 01:39 PM
:ahem:
"Daaadd! Tom Cruise won't come out of the closet!"
;-)
LdyJhawk
08-23-2006, 06:05 PM
But..but..what about his box office HIT Collateral? Ask the three people that saw it, it was GOLD! (I was not one of the three, he did that weird teeth clicking thing)..
Tom Cruise..he's a card. He's pretty but then he speaks and I just want to shush him and ask him not to ruin the moment with words. I won't be glib though, I've never studied all there is to know about something.
Did you know there is an L Ron Hubbard Scientology museum in Hollywood? I read the journal of a person that went, I nearly peed myself. Apparently not only did he graduate with honors, serve admirably in the military..he was a freaking super wonder boyscout as well.
Clearly those letters of "I have to start my own religion, that's where the money is" meant NOTHING!
Pathos
08-23-2006, 06:18 PM
But..but..what about his box office HIT Collateral? Ask the three people that saw it, it was GOLD! (I was not one of the three, he did that weird teeth clicking thing).. Collateral was another big hit. It was number one at the box-office for 3 weeks.
I'm not sure where you people are getting your information that his movies aren't sucessfull. He's been a box-office juggernaut for years and years.
Collateral
Awards and nominations
2005 ASCAP Film and Television Music Awards
* Won - Top Box Office Film — James Newton Howard, Antonio Pinto
2005 Academy Awards (Oscars)
* Nominated - Best Performance by an Actor in a Supporting Role — Jamie Foxx
* Nominated - Best Editing — Jim Miller, Paul Rubell
2005 Academy of Science Fiction, Fantasy & Horror Films (Saturn Awards)
* Nominated - Best Actor (Film) — Tom Cruise
* Nominated - Best Director — Michael Mann
* Nominated - Best Action/Adventure/Thriller Film
* Nominated - Best Writing — Stuart Beattie
2005 American Cinema Editors (Eddies)
* Nominated - Outstanding Achievement in Cinematography in Theatrical Releases — Dion Beebe, Paul Cameron
2005 Art Directors Guild
* Nominated - Feature Film - Contemporary Film — David Wasco, Daniel T. Dorrance, Aran Mann, Gerald Sullivan, Christopher Tandon
2005 BAFTA Film Awards
* Won - Best Cinematography — Dion Beebe, Paul Cameron
* Nominated - Best Actor in a Supporting Role — Jamie Foxx
* Nominated - David Lean Award for Direction — Michael Mann
* Nominated - Best Editing — Jim Miller, Paul Rubell
* Nominated - Best Screenplay (Original) — Stuart Beattie
* Nominated - Best Sound — Elliott Koretz, Lee Orloff, Michael Minkler, Myron Nettinga
2005 Black Reel Awards
* Won - Best Supporting Actor — Jamie Foxx
* Nominated - Best Supporting Actress — Jada Pinkett Smith
2005 Broadcast Film Critics Association Awards
* Nominated - Best Supporting Actor — Jamie Foxx
* Nominated - Best Picture
Buxom Wench
08-23-2006, 06:21 PM
.....I'm not sure where you people are getting your information that his movies aren't sucessfull. He's been a box-office juggernaut for years and years......
I never said his movies weren't money makers. They obviously are or the studios wouldn't keep hiring him.
I don't have a problem with the movies.... its HIM!!
Mylilpinkpig
08-23-2006, 06:30 PM
Tom Cruise, like most actors, made some good movies and some bad ones. The problem is while he was supposed to be promoting his last movie, he used it as an opportunity to jump on couches, spew his "knowledge" of post partum depression, attack Brooke Shields and the entire psychaitric profession. The man actually told mothers who are suffering from post partum depression, "just excercise and take vitamins". I can't even begin to express my disgust at that. Alot of people who maybe would have gone to see a Tom Cruise movie before thinking it might be good are now saying, " That guys a nut, I am not going to see his movies". That's why Paramount wants to distance itself from him. I think paramount was right.
Gemdrite
08-23-2006, 06:32 PM
Also, those nominations don't mean that the movies were popular. It looks like those nominations are for awards that the general public does not vote on. They are awarded by other film-makers, directors, etc. It doesn't necessarily have to do with how well the movie does.
Gellis Indigo
08-23-2006, 06:32 PM
Collateral was another big hit. It was number one at the box-office for 3 weeks.
I'm not sure where you people are getting your information that his movies aren't sucessfull. He's been a box-office juggernaut for years and years.
snippage of many facts about Tom Cruise's movie biography.
Wow! Who knew Pathos was a closet Tom Cruise fanatic? ;-)
(ya know I luv ya Pathos!)
Pathos
08-23-2006, 06:44 PM
I never said his movies weren't money makers. They obviously are or the studios wouldn't keep hiring him.
I don't have a problem with the movies.... its HIM!! I know Hon. I didn't mean you. It's just that the comments about Collateral and War of the Worlds being bombs are simply not correct. Collateral was a big hit and WotW was a MAJOR hit.
Hey...anybody can dislike anybody else for any reason they want. That's fine with me. I just like the facts to be straight.
Despite the way it sounds I've never been much of a fan of his myself. But he HAS been one of our biggest stars for almost 20 years now. You know a Tom Cruise movie will at least be a well-made movie even if you ultimately don't like it. He doesn't make crappy fluff pictures.
That's all I'm saying.
Pathos
08-23-2006, 06:48 PM
Also, those nominations don't mean that the movies were popular. It looks like those nominations are for awards that the general public does not vote on. They are awarded by other film-makers, directors, etc. It doesn't necessarily have to do with how well the movie does.
COLLATERAL
Domestic Total Gross: $101,005,703
TOTAL LIFETIME GROSSES
Domestic: $101,005,703
+ Foreign: $116,657,543
= Worldwide: $217,663,246
Is that better? :toocool:
Pathos
08-23-2006, 06:49 PM
Wow! Who knew Pathos was a closet Tom Cruise fanatic? ;-)
See 2 posts above.
:wink:
Alianne
08-23-2006, 07:41 PM
Also, those nominations don't mean that the movies were popular. It looks like those nominations are for awards that the general public does not vote on. They are awarded by other film-makers, directors, etc. It doesn't necessarily have to do with how well the movie does.
And even the fact that it was 'number one at the box office for three weeks' isn't necessarily telling. One would have to look at the other films released at the same time and the actual dollar amounts taken in.
In a quiet release week, a 10-million opening could mean 'number one' status, yet in a week where there's blockbuster competition, it would mean the kiss of death.
Alianne
08-23-2006, 07:43 PM
You know a Tom Cruise movie will at least be a well-made movie even if you ultimately don't like it. He doesn't make crappy fluff pictures.
That's all I'm saying.
One word:
'Cocktail'
Oh, three more:
'Far and Away'
:)
Ysobelle
08-23-2006, 07:53 PM
While a lot of his movies did very well, they didn't do as well as the studio expected them to do, and fell off the radar much faster than expected. It's not that they didn't make money-- it's that they didn't make enough money.
Pathos
08-23-2006, 08:13 PM
One word:
'Cocktail'
Oh, three more:
'Far and Away'
:) Good points.
"Cocktail" was back in the 80's though when there was still some doubt that he'd ever break the teen heartthrob mold.
"Far and Away"...while it didn't work...was at least a good effort at making an epic period piece. With the cast and the director there was plenty of reason to think it would be good.
And again with regards to "Collateral" and it being number one for 3 weeks. Look at the total box-office. Nearly a quarter of a BILLION dollars is a hit no matter how you look at it. And that was BEFORE the DVD release.
Like I said...I'm not arguing whether or not he's a whack-job. I'm arguing that he's been one of the most successfull actors in Hollywood history and his films are consistently big hits. That's all.
Sorcha Griannon
08-23-2006, 10:05 PM
Did you know there is an L Ron Hubbard Scientology museum in Hollywood? I read the journal of a person that went, I nearly peed myself. Apparently not only did he graduate with honors, serve admirably in the military..he was a freaking super wonder boyscout as well.
Clearly those letters of "I have to start my own religion, that's where the money is" meant NOTHING!
Try walking Hollywood near the Manns Chinese Theater and various other tourist attractions...Gods, they are every where (nearly every 100 feet or so, just in case you didn't see the other 30 other them I guess). They try to get you into their museum, and talk about the religion. I had taken a friend down there once to sightsee, and when I told him to ignore the cult members, they really got pissed at me, lol...
Sorcha
Mistress Lisette
08-24-2006, 12:31 AM
Just a bit more...
I've never been a Tom Cruise fan. He just gave me the 'heebee jeebees" everytime I saw him on tv or where ever. I avoided movies with him in them BECAUSE he was in them. I think it all started with "Risky Business". I just felt he was too into himself.
According to James, he is. When Cruise was out promoting Born on the 4th of July, the premier was at the theater James was managing in his life before college. (Since the movie was shot in Dallas, they premiered it in Dallas.) Anywho, James said Mimi Rogers, who was married to Cruise at the time, was really sweet, but Cruise acted like a major ass. Even to the point where he threw out his fame to James' face as being "better." James said he got the intense feeling that Cruise was, um, put out by James' 6'4 1/2" height. As Cruise grabbed Rogers, and essentially dragged her away, James said he heard Cruise telling her she shouldn't talk to people "like them." Hmmmmm. Anywho, I've never been a Cruise fan and b/c he dissed mah man, I rilly don't like him now.:lol:
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