IF I did it???

[Selena]

What a fucktard! I cannot believe this asshat is actually DOING this! :shame:


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LOS ANGELES (AP) - Fox plans to broadcast an interview with O.J. Simpson in which the former football star discusses "how he would have committed" the slayings of his ex-wife and her friend, for which he was acquitted, the network said.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20061115/D8LDF2L00.html

[Buxom Wench]

And I can't believe that Fox would actually air something this moronic!!

EGADS!!!

[Artemisia]

Jesus Christ, I really thought this was a joke.
Goes to show what the media thinks of the general US population. Or really, what the general tv viewing public is willling to watch. If it bleeds, it leads. Does the media really believe that we've gotten so desentisized they're willing to spend money on such a thing?

There's just so many levels of wrong here.

[Dmitri]

Boy, he's just DYING to tell people how he really did it... Media whore...

[Tink]

He DID do it. He's been doing things to shove the fact that he got away with it in everyone's faces ever since he was acquitted. Remember how he claimed he'd spend "the rest if his life looking for Nicole's killer"? Uh-huh, riiiiight. He scoured every golf course and tropical resort and not a trace or clue did he find. :roll:

This fucking book is yet another mockery of our justice system and every person who believes he did it. It is sickening.

The man shouldn't be alive. He's an evil, deviant, piece of shit.

I don't know how the assholes on the jury that declared him innocent sleep at night. It was all about race and politics. Those people were determined from day 1 to acquit him. They could've been shown a video of him killing Nicole and Ron and they still would have rendered him not guilty. :augh:

I wish someone would kill OJ already. AND get away with it. Just as he got away with these two murders.

[Artemisia]

Money can buy you the best legal system there is.

[Peter Beer Slayer]

Well, in defense of the jury, let me add this. You are instructed to come up with a verdict of guility only if there is no shadow of doubt. That makes the defense much easier, all you have to do is cast doubt.
I served on a federal jury for a guy who probably was the get away driver for a bank robbery. The prosecution proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that the guy was a sleeze ball. (The guys mother was on the stand when she found out she was a grandmother by him. ) But the prosecution did not prove to any of us on the jury that he was the driver. We returned a verdict of guility. Pretty much all of us believed he was probably guilty but we weren't sure of it.

BTW
I am pretty well convinced OJ is guilty.

[Selena]

BTW
I am pretty well convinced OJ is guilty.


Which brings to another point: Not a threadjack, per se, but it IS talking about the murders:

I have never understood why the black community thought this to be a racial issue. Since day one of watching that story unfold, I saw this--- a rich man who is an NFL superstar allegedly murdered his wife and her friend/lover. There were legal documents to support past spousal abuse and family violence. Physical evidence of the perp was found at the scene.

Why did it become a WHITE VS. BLACK thing?? Because of the circus of the cameras in the courtroom? Perhaps. *shakes head* I don't care what "fuckups" Darden, et al did.

I'm entirely convinced that had that trial NOT been televised, OJS would have been found guilty in that criminal court. Remember, folks... he WAS found guilty in a civil court.

Speaks volumes to me, eh.

[Selena]

OH, I forgot to add-- Dmitri-- fuckin' crack me UP with your "media whore" comment. I actually LAUGHED out loud! *rotfl*

[renren]

::doubleb::
That's how THAT makes me feel!

[Peter Beer Slayer]

Why did it become a WHITE VS. BLACK thing?? Because of the circus of the cameras in the courtroom? Perhaps. *shakes head* I don't care what "fuckups" Darden, et al did.

I'm entirely convinced that had that trial NOT been televised, OJS would have been found guilty in that criminal court. Remember, folks... he WAS found guilty in a civil court.

Speaks volumes to me, eh.


I got a lot of that (this is a black vs white thing) at my office while all this was going down. I said "hold on, you have it all wrong this is not a black or white thing, it is money thing. It would not matter if it were you (pointing to a black male coworker) or if it were me on trial. If they had that much evidence against us California would reinstate the death penalty and we would be frying. But because OJ has millions of dollars to spend on his defense he is able to get off.

All that being said I still say we have the best judicial system money can buy

[Isabelle Warwicke]

And I can't believe that Fox would actually air something this moronic!!

Wait you're suprised that Fox aired this. The last thing worth watching on Fox was Firefly. Fox has become THE network of, for and by Morons.

[Tink]

Which brings to another point: Not a threadjack, per se, but it IS talking about the murders:

I have never understood why the black community thought this to be a racial issue. Since day one of watching that story unfold, I saw this--- a rich man who is an NFL superstar allegedly murdered his wife and her friend/lover. There were legal documents to support past spousal abuse and family violence. Physical evidence of the perp was found at the scene.

Why did it become a WHITE VS. BLACK thing?? Because of the circus of the cameras in the courtroom? Perhaps. *shakes head* I don't care what "fuckups" Darden, et al did.

I'm entirely convinced that had that trial NOT been televised, OJS would have been found guilty in that criminal court. Remember, folks... he WAS found guilty in a civil court.

Speaks volumes to me, eh.

Two theories....

-Payback for the cops that beat Rodney King getting off.

-Finding him guilty might have caused similar riots to what went on after the Rodney King trial and the jury didn't want to feel responsible for more deaths, injuries and theft being delivered on the community.

It sucks that we have double jeopardy because in cases like OJ's he knows he can't be tried twice for the same crime. So, he is free to rub his freedom in people's faces and do this money-making scheme TV show which basically does seem to be his admission of guilt. He knows he can't go to jail now so he has nothing to lose and sadly, plenty of money to gain. It's disgusting and shameful. I don't know how Nicole and Ron's family's can resist walking up to the guy and shooting him.

[Selena]

Two theories....

-Payback for the cops that beat Rodney King getting off.

-Finding him guilty might have caused similar riots to what went on after the Rodney King trial and the jury didn't want to feel responsible for more deaths, injuries and theft being delivered on the community.


Yeah, good point. I always seem to forget about him.

BTW, I heard this morning the statement released by the Goldman family. Ron's father calls OJ, "a narcissistic SOB", among other things.

Sad. So so sad.

[daBaroness]

OK - first. It was a black vs. white thing, and a celebrity thing. At the time, I worked for a social service-type agency staffed by, and predominantly for African-Americans. Everyone agreed Simpson was guilty as sin - but when the not guilty verdict came down they all celebrated because they saw it as vindication for all the blacks in history who were wrongly convicted or just plain lynched. It didn't matter to them that O.J. was guilty of *this* crime - he represented something much larger to them. And there was a sentiment that as a white woman married to a black man, Nicole Brown Simpson somehow deserved her fate. I kid you not - I heard it multiple times out of the mouths of my coworkers.

I just closed the door to my office and decided then and there that was the last straw for this white woman and I began planning my exit from that job.

After the trial, author and Vanity Fair writer, Dominick Dunne wrote a "fictional," though thinly-veiled autobiographical novel called Another City Not My Own in which he recounted the trial from his own perspective as a journalist covering the trial for Vanity Fair - just using a different name to protect himself from lawsuits. It's a very interesting book and I'd highly recommend it.

But the really interesting thing was when Dominick Dunne appeared on a talk show about the time of the book release - along with a crime psychologist - and they both stated their believe that because of O.J. Simpson's ego - he would - before he died - not only confess to the murders - but actually brag about them.

It appears their prediction was right. While he hasn't come out and said, "yep - I did it," he's come as close as he wants to right now. I mean ... writing a book entitled, "If I Did It ..." Unfreakin believable - what a sociopathic, psychopathic, egomaniacal goon! Somewhere in his twisted brain he's proud of himself for not only murdering the mother of his children - but for getting away with it. And now, because of double jeopardy, he could actually confess to the murders outright and never be tried or punished for them.

I think what's most amazing is that even though a majority of Americans believe Simpson was guilty - he's maintained his celebrity status - never paid a dime even though he lost the civil suit filed by the Goldmans and the Browns, regained custody of his children (can you IMAGINE how screwed up those kids are?!) AND had young women knocking his door down (many who look like Nicole) to date him. A few years ago the mother of his then live-in girlfriend talked to the media about how abusive he was to her daughter, and how brainwashed her daughter was. What is WRONG with these people?! What is the attraction to a washed-up jock turned murderer?!

My only hope is that karma kicks that fuckwad into an eternal hell from which he'll never return!

[DoñaNina]

And there was a sentiment that as a white woman married to a black man, Nicole Brown Simpson somehow deserved her fate.

What. The. Hell.

[Dmitri]

I was out of work when the original televised trial was on... I basically watched the whole thing...

Frankly, even tho' my gut instinct says he did it, or planned it, they just didn't have enough evidence to convict him... Period.

I know in my heart of hearts that OJ is a murderer, or a conspirator. But if I were on the jury I would have said innocent...

Our judicial system did not fail, because its based on facts and evidence our it doesn't work.

Can you imagine the injustice that would ensue if people could go to jail because the jury got a "feeling" about them? Bad Times ahead...

[daBaroness]

I remember during the trial - DNA evidence was really, REALLY new - and there was a lot of bruhaha about the jury not understanding DNA and that kind of thing. I also remember several people I know who are prosecuting attorneys saying the whole trial was surreal and a travesty - AND that Judge Ito ought to have recused himself because he was so star-struck he allowed the celebrity defense team to run the courtroom.

I also remember that the police department really botched the investigation and may have tainted evidence. It obviously did a bad enough job that the defense team turned the trial of O.J. into the trial of Mark Fuhrman and capitalized on the race issue even further.

It would be interesting to see how that case would be handled today. I'm willing to bet the verdict would be different.

[Emrld]

Now that is the "reality show" Fox should be showing -
What would happen in the OJ trial today with the advances in Crime Investigation.
Then again I have a feeling we wouldn't have some of the advances if it weren't for that case.

Don't get me wrong - I think that OJ is beyond guilty - and if Nicole or Ron's family do anything to him - I think they should be given the same courtesy and be allowed to walk free . . .write a book . . .live life. (at least with them I wouldn't be worried about the effect on the Children)

I am tempted to start one of those annoying pass it on e-mail campagins convincing people to boycott buying the book. And I will have to find out who the publisher is - Agreeing to publish something like this really does effect my choice to buy any other book published by them.

[Emrld]

Ok I typed what I typed above - and then decided I need to be proactive in this.

I did a search found out the publisher is Regan - did a search on that low and behold they are a divison of Harper Collins. There at the bottom of the page is a phone number 212-207-7007.
The very kind New York native who answered the phone (yes I am being serious he was polite and professional) said they are taking complaints and passing them directly to the Company President.

So - if you are so inclined I suggest you also call and voice your opinion over them being linked to it. - For me this means that I will have to give up some authors I enjoy because - I don't have any interest in giving that company money. (I know someone was bound to publish it why shouldn't they blah blah blah - well this is one of the problems here in society - not talking a stand for the risk of losing an almighty dollar.- another soapbox for another day)

Please remember if you do call - the person who answers/ is taking the messages is not the person who decided to publish the book - they are just having to listen to everyone gripe about it.

[Selena]

I am tempted to start one of those annoying pass it on e-mail campagins convincing people to boycott buying the book

The morning DJ's were saying they thought it would be great if the Goldmans/Browns got a copy of the book... and posted it online for people to read if they wanted to... but without putting a dime in OJ's pocket. Sounds great... that is until someone gets slapped with a cease and desist order for copyright infringement.

[Bonnie Strangeways]

Kudos to you Emrld for being so proactive. Thank you for the phone number, I have placed my call and complaint.

[Perin]

I'm entirely convinced that had that trial NOT been televised, OJS would have been found guilty in that criminal court. Remember, folks... he WAS found guilty in a civil court.

Speaks volumes to me, eh.

Except the burden of proof was different in the civil case. Most likely guilty vs. guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.

Everyone agreed Simpson was guilty as sin - but when the not guilty verdict came down they all celebrated because they saw it as vindication for all the blacks in history who were wrongly convicted or just plain lynched. It didn't matter to them that O.J. was guilty of *this* crime - he represented something much larger to them. And there was a sentiment that as a white woman married to a black man, Nicole Brown Simpson somehow deserved her fate. I kid you not

Wow.... Just wow......

I have a feeling there will be an interview with him before he's done that goes something like this:

Interviewer: So theoretically, what would you say to Nicole before you killed her?
OJ: I told the bitch that she deserved this.
Interviewer: You mean, you would have told her.
OJ: Huh?
Interviewer: You mean to say that you would have told her that if you had done it.
OJ: Oh yeah, right. I would have told the bitch that she deserved it. Yeah, that's it.

[Tink]

I have a feeling there will be an interview with him before he's done that goes something like this:

Interviewer: So theoretically, what would you say to Nicole before you killed her?
OJ: I told the bitch that she deserved this.
Interviewer: You mean, you would have told her.
OJ: Huh?
Interviewer: You mean to say that you would have told her that if you had done it.
OJ: Oh yeah, right. I would have told the bitch that she deserved it. Yeah, that's it.

Now that's fucking funny. *rotfl* I see that in a SNL skit soon.

[daBaroness]

What would be really great is if somewhere in the printed pages - prosecutors could find something new to use in a new and different trial of O.J. I know because of double jeopardy he can't be tried on the same charges as before, but in a perfect world of legal jargon and double-talk, wouldn't it be nice if some "loophole" could be dredged up to bring him to trial again? The guy really does need to be locked up - and short of that - at least have his life turned upside down on a daily basis. No way this pud should be out playing golf ...

[Cyranno DeBoberac]

wouldn't it be nice if some "loophole" could be dredged up to bring him to trial again?

No, it really wouldn't.

As much as it might be personally gratifying to find some way to make OJ pay for what he's done, further corrupting the already decaying integrity of the criminal justice system is too high a price to pay for that gratification.

BTW, there's already precedent for a methodology to violate a person's protection from double jepoardy. Try the person in federal court, not for murder, but for violating the civil rights of the victim by murdering them. It's tortured legal reasoning, but it's already been used a number of times in cases where political motivations called for obtaining a conviction by any means necessary.

[Bean]

It's sad to say, but there probably is a large segment of society that will buy this book out of morbid curiosity. There are so many real life crime books out there that are best sellers, and how many times has Charles Manson been interviewed (although he is a few cards short of a full deck) and TV ratings skyrocket.

I personally won't buy the book, or watch the interview no matter how many times it will air (and you know it will be more than once.......). FOX has about hit the bottom of the barrel in terms of what it will air.

[Torra]

No, it really wouldn't.

As much as it might be personally gratifying to find some way to make OJ pay for what he's done, further corrupting the already decaying integrity of the criminal justice system is too high a price to pay for that gratification.

BTW, there's already precedent for a methodology to violate a person's protection from double jepoardy. It's tortured legal reasoning...

Would you care to give a precis of this? I'm really curious as I didn't know it existed.

[Cyranno DeBoberac]

Would you care to give a precis of this? I'm really curious as I didn't know it existed.
The one example I can think of off the top of my head is the case of Lemrick Nelson Jr (a black man), who was accused of killing Yankel Rosenbaum (a rabbinical student visiting from Austrialia), during the Crown Heights Riot in New York City in 1991.

He was aquitted of muder in state court, but because of tremendous political pressure he was retried (and convicted) in federal court for violating Rosenbaum's civil rights (the theory behind the charge being that Rosenbaum was killed solely because he was jewish).

The exception to double jepoardy was carved out in a Supreme Court ruling in the 1959 case Bartkus v. Illinois (http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/cgi-bin/getcase.pl?court=US&vol=359&invol=121). The key phrase that the decision turns on is "dual sovereignty", that the state and federal governments are seperate sovereign entities and thus can each independently pursue violations of their laws even if both violations stemmed from a single act. Murdering someone is not a violation of federal law per se, but there are certain components of an act of murder which can make it also a violation of federal law. So-called "hate crime" murders, where it can be argued that the act of murder was a violation of the victim's civil rights, is a violation of federal law, so now you've committed a crime in two different jurisdictions with one act and they each get to take a shot at you.

Another example is the two trials, one state one federal, of the LAPD officers who were accused of beating Rodney King.

[daBaroness]

I was watching the news late last night and saw an interview with the publisher (a woman no less) who gave the lamest frellin' answer imaginable when answering the "why would you publish this?" question. Her response was that she "thought" she was doing a great public service by showcasing the problems of domestic violence and that O.J.'s kids would be the recipients of the proceeds of the book.

What a freakin' crock of shit! She and O.J. will be the recipients of the proceeds of the book - and even more than O.J., I hope the C ya next tuesday gets receives the proceeds of some hellish karma! What an integrity-devoid bitch!

[Selena]

Heh-- UPdate--

Cancelled! Good for them!

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,230838,00.html

[Buxom Wench]

Heh-- UPdate--

Cancelled! Good for them!

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,230838,00.html

Can I get a "HUZZAH"? ::yay::

[DoñaNina]

Heh-- UPdate--

Cancelled! Good for them!

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,230838,00.html

Thank GOODNESS.