Time for a thorough Gene Pool cleaning....

[Buxom Wench]

:augh: WHERE DO THESE WASTES OF ORGANIC MATTER COME FROM?!?!?!?

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=2946470&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312

Couple Held in Death of 4-Year-Old
Spokane Couple Is Ordered Held in Death of Man's 4-Year-Old Daughter
The Associated Press
SPOKANE, Wash. - A Spokane couple was ordered held Monday on $500,000 bond each in the death of the man's 4-year-old daughter. Detectives said the child had been forced to wear a shock collar, beaten with belts and suffered human bite wounds.

Jonathan Lytle, 28, and Adriana Lytle, 32, the girl's father and stepmother, were arrested Sunday for investigation of first-degree murder after Jonathan Lytle took the girl to Deaconess Medical Center with bruises from head to toe.

The girl apparently drowned, but her injuries were so extensive that investigators were awaiting autopsy results to determine the cause of death.

"This is the worst case I've ever seen and my detectives feel the same," said Sgt. Joe Peterson of the department's major crimes unit. "It's probably the worst case of abuse that any of us in hundreds of combined years in this unit have ever seen."

The victim, who apparently was developmentally disabled, was made to wear a shock collar, typically used for training dogs, in attempts to discipline her, court documents indicated.

The girl apparently drowned in a bath tub in which she had been forced to wash urine-stained clothing, court documents said. According to the documents, the child also had injuries from beatings with belts and spoons and had human bite marks on her body.

The family lived in an apartment less than two blocks from the Public Safety Building.

A second child, an 8-month-old boy, was taken from the home and placed in foster care.

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[renren]

Thank god they got the other child out!
As for the girl ~sigh~just makes me so sad! :(

[Bean]

Ya' know, you have to pass a test to drive a car, I think you should have to pass a test in order to procreate........

[syndony]

Damn
You can't call the organisms whom she was living with 'parents'.

[Peaches O Malley]

Ya' know, you have to pass a test to drive a car, I think you should have to pass a test in order to procreate........
Unfortunately, any asshole can be a parent.:roll:

[Phoenix McHeit]

Unfortunately, any asshole can be a parent.:roll:

Love ya hun, but I beg to differ a wee bit on semantics.

Any asshole can create a child. "Parent" is a whole 'nother thing altogether. (see my sig)

And where the hell was the mother?

*sigh* Another wee angel wings her way to peace. Rest well, little one - you deserve it. ::candle::

[Kit]

Things like this are just so sad. One of the worst things is it could be happening next door to you and you may never know it until you see a dozen cops outside a house and reports on the news. ::sigh:: Well I have to say I agree, at least one child is saved and the other's torture has finally ended. May she find the peace she deserves.

[Peaches O Malley]

Love ya hun, but I beg to differ a wee bit on semantics.

Any asshole can create a child. "Parent" is a whole 'nother thing altogether. (see my sig)



Back at ya luv! There was a wee bit of sarcasm there but I should have said create a child, and yes point well taken. ;-)

[Mistress_Autumn]

Makes you wonder why those types of people manage to get away with such serious abuse... but families like mine have Child Protective Services in and out of the home when there's no abuse happening at all.

Sorry... I had CPS called in because I cut my 4 y/o daughter's hair very short, my oldest wears a pull-up to bed (she doesn't like having accidents), I have 2 cats in a small apartment with children, and I don't go to church. After almost 20 years (and remember that I'm only 26) of CPS being in and out of my life, I just have a serious thing against the way they run things.

Rest in peace, little one... You deserve it.

[Isabelle Warwicke]

un-freakin'-real! what the hell is the matter with these people?!?!?

:shame: Shame on them.

[Mistress Morigianna]

Sorry... I had CPS called in because I cut my 4 y/o daughter's hair very short, my oldest wears a pull-up to bed (she doesn't like having accidents), I have 2 cats in a small apartment with children, and I don't go to church.
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ok I have to hear thesestories? cutting hair? not going to church?

[Torra]

These DNA donors should be sent to jail, and the day before they get there, fliers handed out to each and every inmate about what they did. Justice will take care of itself. Child abusers are some of the least tolerated criminals anywhere in the world, including prisons.

[Mistress_Autumn]

ok I have to hear thesestories? cutting hair? not going to church?

Cutting of the 4 y/o's hair story:

My 7 y/o was sent home from school because the school nurse saw a single louse (no eggs, no other bugs, just the one) and I was told that I needed to treat both of the girls for lice before she could return to school. Well, I was flat broke (and with three kids, another on the way, and living on a single military man's paycheck there's no time that I actually -have- any money...) and couldn't afford to buy enough RID to treat two girls with very long hair. So I shagged my 7 y/o's hair (cute pixie cut) and was planning to do the same to the 4 y/o. She started screaming, kicking, throwing punches and trying to bite... but she needed to get her hair cut. I did what any parent in that situation would do.... I put her in a head-lock and buzzed her hair to about a half-inch. Very short, yes... but not unreasonable. CPS was called in because I had "cut her hair in order to make her appear to be a boy, and was calling her by a boy's name."

Ummmm... yeah... I cut her hair so I could afford to treat her for lice... and her name is Alicia... "Lee" for short. Since when is calling my daughter by her nickname abuse??? *shrugs*


As for the "not going to church" thing.... Can we say "Wiccan"? Apparently CPS was informed that I was practicing "Satanic rituals" and was including my children as part of these "evil rituals". Did you know that "those witches use live animals as part of their ritual slaughterings"? Oh yeah.. My favorite part was where I was using our two cats as breeding animals to provide for those ritual slaughterings.... even though both of them are fixed. Yeah. Nice....

I just love the way CPS looks into things like that. I still have to deal with them for the next 6 months... even though there was nothing going on that could be even remotely called abuse.

[Buxom Wench]

I just love the way CPS looks into things like that. I still have to deal with them for the next 6 months... even though there was nothing going on that could be even remotely called abuse.

These are the reasons that CPS just makes my blood boil.

When my kids (4 of them) were little, my ex used to call CPS on me.
So many stories and lies that after the 5th call, they told HIM that if he called again to make a report, they were going to file charges against HIM, not me.

While they were sent on a 'wild gooses chase' looking into my life, there were at least 3 reported deaths of children by people who really were abusing their kids and no one cared enough to call.

*walks away shaking head at the screwed up systems of our country*

[DameGoode]

Those deaths are the reason that there are so many wild goose chases. Who wants to be the supervisor when those deaths go on the news? Anyone?

And it might be my upbringing, but so WHAT if you were doing satanic rituals? As long as you weren't doing animal cruelty or abusing your children, why would it be their responsibility?

I know I know, the point of your post entirely.

[Mistress Morigianna]

i remember getting in majort trouble with my parents when CPS came to our house one night.
I had a black eye- i walked into the edge of a door- Really! I was horseing around with my sister and turned into the open door and hit the edge. it didn't even hurt that much we just laughed cause i am pale and bruise easily.

A teacher at school called, she didn't believe the door story even though she knew i was a klutz. my parents thought i told people they hit me. :roll:

In VA I had to explain to a navy worker what wiccan was because she had a report and didn't know any other 'witches' I don't have kids but I gave her a ear load (and books). I am just glad she came and asked my ex-"hey aren't you and yer wife one of those pagan people- you're from california..." He gave her my number to talk before she went to the house of the guy with 3 kids someone complained about. (he had asked for yule off and was willing to do duty on christmas and they got all worried). And at least she had an open mind.

[Gellis Indigo]

Here in the greater Cincinnati area we have been dealing with a case of an autistic young man (4 years old)named Marcus Fiesel since last summer. His foster mother claimed he had disappered in a local park. She went on TV and cried and pled for his safe return. People from all over the area searched for him for almost a week.
Turns out the foster parents had taped him up and locked in him a closet while they went to a family reunion for the weekend. When they got back he was dead. So the foster dad took him to a different county and burnt the boy's body in an old fireplace. The couple's girlfriend came forward and testified against the foster parents in exchange for immunity, even though she was a part of the crime.
So now here's what's happening in this area:

"Foster parents get ultimatum
Allow background checks or lose children, agency orders

"Within 30 days all foster parents in Hamilton County must agree to ongoing background checks - or children will be removed from their homes, Hamilton County's top foster care official said Monday.
His comments came a day after two county officials attacked his agency for bureaucratic foot-dragging in making sure all foster parents had ongoing criminal background checks.
At a morning meeting with county commissioners, Rick Roberts, director of the county's Job and Family Services, also revealed that:
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His agency was unaware of six of the 27 arrests discovered in a background check by Hamilton County Clerk of Courts Greg Hartmann. Those six arrests did not result in convictions and thus were not caught by the department's background check, which looks only at convictions, he said.
Of the 27 foster parents arrested, 16 are under investigation by his department - and may lose their foster children.
An ombudsman position with independent oversight will be created.
Foster mother Danita Atwood, 43, of Springfield Township said she's in favor of the background checks - and signed her consent form the day it arrived.
"The bottom line is when you decide you're going to take on the responsibility of foster care, from the time you put in the application, your life is put under a microscope," said Atwood, who has adopted two foster children placed with her.
The county's announcements came at a Monday morning meeting among Hamilton County commissioners, Roberts and Hartmann.
Hartmann, along with Hamilton County Commissioner Pat DeWine - both Republicans - had revealed last week that JFS was allowing background checks only of foster parents licensed through the county - and not of foster parents licensed through private agencies.
They questioned why children were permitted to live with some of the parents, one of whom was arrested on a charge of child endangering.
There are 750 foster children in Hamilton County. There are 410 foster parents licensed through the county, caring for 305 children. The other 445 children are cared for by foster parents licensed through private agencies. JFS could not say Monday how many parents are licensed through private agencies.
Of the county-controlled foster parents, 106 have not been checked. Of the privately licensed parents, none have been checked. Consent forms are still coming in, according to JFS.
An agreement between Hartmann and JFS about how the checks will be done is expected to be signed Wednesday.
"We have a serious problem," Hartmann said. "We have to make sure we are not putting children in environments that jeopardize their health and safety."
Roberts said agency staff worked all weekend reviewing the 27 cases. The reviews were done by quality assurance employees who typically work outside the foster care program, Gregg said.
Roberts added it's his responsibility to make sure these children have homes and there is already a shortage of foster parents.
He promised to follow the rules, "despite any trauma the disruption might create for the child," Roberts said in the release. "We are unsure of the ramifications of this decision.
"We do know that we have a severe need for foster parents at this time and losing any foster parent from our 285-home network or from the private agencies that care for 445 of our children would put additional strain on the system."
Hartmann uncovered the arrests while implementing a criminal background check system that allows for immediate notification if a foster parent is arrested. It's believed to be the first of its kind in the state."

From The Cincinnati Enquirer

[Buxom Wench]

I would think that NOT signing that consent form would be a RED FLAG to the authorities.

If you don't sign, you don't get to be a foster parent. Period.

[Gellis Indigo]

I would think that NOT signing that consent form would be a RED FLAG to the authorities.

If you don't sign, you don't get to be a foster parent. Period.

You got it!!!

BTW, both Liz and David Carroll (the foster parents) are serving life sentences; they both stood trial within the last month.

[daBaroness]

We've had a rash of horrid cases lately involving children. Some involve foster children or adopted children, some natural-born children. It sickens me to the core of my being - how can a human being who calls themself a parent come up with such unspeakably horrible things to do to a child? From binding them head-to-toe in duck tape and the child suffocating on it's own vomit because it was locked in his mouth; to caging children, to locking them in closets or basements and withholding food, water and even toileting. There's not a punishment horrible enough to fit the crime. Death by any means is too leinent.

People complained about orphanages, but the foster system has got to be equally horrifying for many kids. How can a society allow this to go on?

[Katie O'Connell]

Those deaths are the reason that there are so many wild goose chases.

I'm willing to bet that in some way those wild goose chases are responsible for the number of cases like this one. With what I understand to be a dumpsterload of files of the desks of so many social workers, chasing down every report has to be a monumental task.

So while they're busy investigating all the 'wolf cries' of bitter ex relatives and obnoxious neighbors, the real monsters are quietly working away at their torture, and no one knows until it's too late.


And it might be my upbringing, but so WHAT if you were doing satanic rituals? As long as you weren't doing animal cruelty or abusing your children, why would it be their responsibility?

I think we all know the answer to that one. :shhh:

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[Gemdrite]

And it might be my upbringing, but so WHAT if you were doing satanic rituals? As long as you weren't doing animal cruelty or abusing your children, why would it be their responsibility?
Did I misunderstand the original post? It sounded to me like the neighbors or whomever reported her to CPS told them that they were sacrificing animals and including their children. CPS would have no way of knowing without coming to check. Now, the fact that the person reporting was completely idiotic and lying sucks, I totally understand that, but can you blame CPS for an idiot filing a false report that they now have to check?

If I did misunderstand, completely ignore this.

[Buxom Wench]

**NOTE**

Do Not Read Boards Just Before Bed And Expect To Have 'good' Dreams.
Expect Total Nightmares. :-(

[DameGoode]

Darling Katherine, good point. That is one of the reasons for those deaths, sheer volume. And I know of people who've called child services to get back at their neighbors. (NOt to mention the people who do it over divorces.)

So, we've established wild goose chases are to prevent horrible deaths.
Horrible deaths are facilitated by wild goose chases. Well, that's depressing!

Gemdrite, I guess I was confused too. I thought she was being investigated because the family was practicing "satanism". Not because specific plans to kill and maim the children and the pets. But then I suppose your perception is your reality, and if one is practicing "satanism' then one IS sacrificing children and pets in their eyes. I guess...

[Mistress Lisette]

As long as people can make anonymous calls to CPS, there's plenty of room for abuse of the system. Last time I checked, Texas allows anonymous calls from "concerned citizens" to CPS...

[Buxom Wench]

As long as people can make anonymous calls to CPS, there's plenty of room for abuse of the system. Last time I checked, Texas allows anonymous calls from "concerned citizens" to CPS...

New York is also supposed to be an "anonymous call" state.
The only reason I *KNEW* it was my EX; he always called the youngest daughter "Nicole". That is NOT her name, nor ever was. It's N-I-K-K-I.

He should have remembered that after the first time he screwed up when he called. :roll:

[Mistress Lisette]

New York is also supposed to be an "anonymous call" state.
The only reason I *KNEW* it was my EX; he always called the youngest daughter "Nicole". That is NOT her name, nor ever was. It's N-I-K-K-I.

He should have remembered that after the first time he screwed up when he called. :roll:

:roll: What an idjut. Good grief.

I'm sorry you went through such nastiness, though. ::hug::

[Buxom Wench]

:roll: What an idjut. Good grief.

I'm sorry you went through such nastiness, though. ::hug::
All reports were "Unfounded" and no legal action taken...at least against me.

Besides, I'm a survivor. I refuse to be a victim.
Thanks for the hugs though. They're always welcome. ::hug::

[Mistress Morigianna]

those parents must be related to the ^^%^T^F%R)R% that did this

don't read before bedtime-
someone mutilated her dog and left it on her doorstep giftwrapped.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/03/15/dog.head.ap/index.html?eref=rss_topstories

i won't even copy the story. It just makes me SICK what people are doing to children & animals.

[ioevohe]

It is everywhere. I could never be a CPS investigator. All the deatrhs, and the wild goose chases. Talk about your haunted dreams. This is what is happening in my town of San Antonio right now... http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/metro/stories/MYSA031107.01A.child_death_arrests.370d08e.html