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KissMeKate
03-15-2007, 02:49 PM
::tinfoil: Yes, your brain likes to do ALL kinds of things while you're sleeping...


A warning to sleeping pill users: Don't sleep and drive

FDA cautions that insomnia-drug users may eat, drive and even have sex without knowing

By Jonathan D. Rockoff
Tribune Newspapers: Baltimore Sun

March 15, 2007

WASHINGTON -- Under pressure from the federal government, drugmakers are revising the labels on Ambien, Lunesta and other popular sleep aids to warn that the pills may result in driving, eating and even having sex while sleeping, health officials said Wednesday.

The makers of the 13 popular medications are also preparing information bulletins for users that will highlight the possibility of bizarre nighttime side effects.

The Food and Drug Administration requested the action to discourage patients from taking higher than recommended doses or combining use with alcohol consumption. Dr. Russell Katz, director of the agency's neurology division, said it had received more than a dozen reports of strange behavior.

"We don't think that these [side effects] are sufficiently frequent that it would cause us to re-evaluate whether or not the drugs should be on the market," he said. "But we do believe the labeling needs to be changed."

The side effects may also include trouble breathing and other severe allergic reactions, Katz said, but it's the strange sleep-time behaviors that have prompted scientific study and attracted national attention.

Patients prescribed Ambien, in particular, have said they woke up to find themselves gorging on food. Some cooked while asleep. Others talked on the telephone while asleep or had sex. Some others learned afterward that they had been behind the wheel of their car during the night, but they had no recollection of driving.

Car accidents have been linked to its use, including one involving Rep. Patrick Kennedy (D-R.I.), who later sought treatment for substance abuse.

"Two of our patients started fires in their kitchen, two drove automobiles--that's serious," said Dr. Carlos Schenck, a senior staff physician at the Minnesota Regional Sleep Disorders Center, who has published a study on the strange side effects and is working on another.

Schenck emphasized that the incidents are rare. In the last five years, only 35 of his patients have had the side effects, he said. They tended to occur in young and middle-age women taking other medications at the same time, and they followed from use of Ambien, not other sleep aids.

The other medicines to receive warnings are: Butisol Sodium, Carbrital, Dalmane, Doral, Halcion, Placidyl, ProSom, Restoril, Rozerem, Seconal and Sonata.

Sleeping pills are widely used, and none is more popular than Ambien. Doctors wrote nearly 50 million prescriptions for sleep medications last year, generating $3.6 billion in sales, according to IMS Health, a health-care information company.

Some physicians complain the drugs are used too commonly.

"This might help curb the overuse," said Dr. Phil Buescher, who prescribes the sleep aids to patients at Union Memorial Hospital in Baltimore.

Before taking one of the drugs, patients should try inducing sleep by avoiding alcohol late at night, eating earlier in the evening and turning off an overly exciting TV show before bedtime, Buescher said.

Sleep specialists, however, emphasize the drugs' safety and effectiveness. Schenck continues prescribing Ambien to two patients who have had the side effects because the drug treats their severe insomnia so well.

Dr. David Neubauer, a sleep medicine specialist at Johns Hopkins Medicine, said the problem might not be that patients are undertaking complex behaviors while sleeping.

"Just as likely for many people, it's simply the amnesia that goes along with deep sleep or with taking these medications," said Neubauer, who has worked as a paid consultant for several sleep aid manufacturers. He has also served on an expert committee that advises the FDA about the drugs.

The FDA first asked drugmakers to change the labels and draft medication guides in December. It asked the companies to submit their revisions for review by May.

Katz said the FDA acted after receiving more than a dozen reports of strange nighttime incidents and determining that all of the sleep aids could cause the side effects.

Ambien's manufacturer, Sanofi-Aventis, has already altered the drug's label and plans to notify physicians through a "Dear Healthcare Professional" letter and an education effort. Sanofi spokeswoman Lisa Kennedy said company studies indicated that somnambulism took place in less than 1 in every 1,000 patients.

Capt. Stamina
03-15-2007, 02:55 PM
No wonder I feel more exhausted than when I went to bed! Dangest thing about it is that I wasn't awake to enjoy it.

MoonWench
03-15-2007, 02:57 PM
I am on Ambien and I have problems with phone calls that I have made or received while asleep. It is really a pain when in the morning I check my phone and there are call, long calls, I don't remember at all.

Buxom Wench
03-15-2007, 03:45 PM
Oh hell.... I sleep walk and talk without the use of any sleep aids.

I once walked 2 miles to a friends house in the middle of the night.
She just layed me down on the couch, covered me and waited until morning to wake me.

Kathryn Blakeley
03-15-2007, 04:17 PM
My sister used to cartwheel up and down the halls in her sleep. No sleeping pills whatsoever.

BronxGirl
03-15-2007, 04:51 PM
My brother would carry on complete conversations with me while he was asleep.

Kit
03-15-2007, 04:52 PM
::tinfoil: Yes, your brain likes to do ALL kinds of things while you're sleeping...

:shock: ...well, uh that could um... explain a few things, heh... ::whistle::

Buxom Wench
03-15-2007, 04:52 PM
My brother would carry on complete conversations with me while he was asleep.

My oldest daughter did that with me.

It's amazing what a parent can find out while the child is asleep. :stunned:

Gellis Indigo
03-15-2007, 04:54 PM
Ambien always made me eat. And I mean EAT!! I'm so glad I'm not on that anymore. My insomnia meds. didn't even make the list of drugs that need the warning! Yea for the wonders of chemistry!

Pathos
03-15-2007, 04:56 PM
The only sleep drugs I ever needed was a big swig of good ol' Nyquil.

Buxom Wench
03-15-2007, 04:57 PM
I just figure, I can sleep when I'm dead. *shrugs*

Gemdrite
03-15-2007, 05:16 PM
I just figure, I can sleep when I'm dead. *shrugs*
Yeah, I used to have that philosophy, but then I realized that unfortunately, while my mind can say that all it wants, my body gets pretty ticked if I don't get sleep in a week. Last year when I was going through a personal crisis I asked the nurses on campus, at the request of the counselor I was seeing, to prescribe sleeping pills so that I could get enough sleep to go to classes. They refused. Prescribed me anti-depressants (which at that point I didn't need anymore, I just couldn't fall asleep until I was utterly exhausted.) Benadryl is amazing to help fall asleep!

Gellis Indigo
03-15-2007, 05:21 PM
I just figure, I can sleep when I'm dead. *shrugs*


Unfortunately, this philosophy doesn't work for me either. My body can't handle a lack of sleep. Never has been able to. I end up extremely sick.

Buxom Wench
03-15-2007, 05:24 PM
I pretty much have been going on 3-5 hours NON-consecutive sleep nightly.

meh, nothing I can do but roll with it.

Phoenix McHeit
03-15-2007, 05:36 PM
The only sleep drugs I ever needed was a big swig of good ol' Nyquil.

Me too - until they Changed The Frelling Formula!!!!! Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Psyche
03-15-2007, 06:02 PM
I was put on Ambien when it first came out on the market and I had really bad results. At the time the doctors were clueless as to how I could go on shopping sprees and have no clue where the stuff came from when I woke up. I also tried to do fire scrying in my livingroom while on Ambien. :lol: We will not even get into the phone calls.

I have to admit that I am very relieved to see this. I am not so psycho after all. ::yay:: *rotfl*

Psyche
03-15-2007, 06:04 PM
Benadryl is amazing to help fall asleep!Unfortunately for me, the active ingredient (diphenhydramine) makes me wired and manicy. If I lay in bed, I am seriously restless and if I do sleep, I feel like I have been running around like chicken with my head cut off all night.

Luciana
03-15-2007, 07:15 PM
A really boring movie or reality show puts me to sleep.

Sorcha Griannon
03-15-2007, 10:04 PM
The only sleep drugs I ever needed was a big swig of good ol' Nyquil.

Oh, yeah, or as my hubby calls it "the green death". I love the stuff. It knocks my butt out.

Sorcha

Sorcha Griannon
03-15-2007, 10:11 PM
Benadryl is amazing to help fall asleep!

That's the sleep ingredient in most otc sleep or pain and sleep meds. It works good, but I can not function the next day. I feel too hung over. A few years ago a pharmacist that I worked for (who really liked natural, herbal, or alternative remedies) turned me on to a product you can find in the vitamin section. Calcium, magnesium and zinc. You have to have all 3 ingredients for it to work, but its great. If I remember correctly, the magnesium acts as a sort of muscle relaxer when combined with the other 2. All I know is when I take it, I get the best sleep. She had told me to take 3 before bedtime, but I would take from 1-3 tablets, 2 usually being the most needed.

Sorcha

Peaches O Malley
03-15-2007, 10:33 PM
Oh hell.... I sleep walk and talk without the use of any sleep aids.

I once walked 2 miles to a friends house in the middle of the night.
She just layed me down on the couch, covered me and waited until morning to wake me.

I have been known to shop in my sleep (make up lists). :roll:*rotfl*

Buxom Wench
03-15-2007, 10:37 PM
I have been known to shop in my sleep (make up lists). :roll:*rotfl*

Weird thing is, I sleep au' natural.
I was totally dressed when I went on my nocturnal walk.

Gemdrite
03-15-2007, 11:17 PM
My brothers used to hold entire conversations in their sleep, but each one would be talking about something completely different. It was so funny to listen to them! One would say something, and the other would answer, and the answer would be completely unrelated, but the first would reply as if it was, and they would just go back and forth!

Isabelle Warwicke
03-15-2007, 11:25 PM
My brother was on Ambien for a while. Court case is currently pending for the last time he was on it. He doesn't take it anymore.

ioevohe
03-16-2007, 03:39 AM
I have definite sleep issues. I have worked graveyards for over 8 years and suffer with severe bouts of insomnia, I have used Benadryl, melatonin, valerian root, Dramamine (over the counter for motion sickness), Nyquil, you can name the OTC drug or home remedy and I have tried it. When I asked my doc about prescription sleep aids he told me he thought I was best off doing what I had been and not to muck about with them. Hmmm, after hearing your stories I am glad I listened to him.

DameGoode
03-16-2007, 08:04 AM
During college due to the stress, I had some REALLY strange sleep things. (Although, I took nothing but the occasional nip of Nyquil) One night after a youthful indescretion, I got up got dressed and didn't wake up until I was at the dorm. I guess my subconscious was trying to save me the "walk of shame".

daBaroness
03-18-2007, 03:05 PM
Actually, SSRI antidepressants can help with sleep issues. Seratonin is quite a busy little hormone that controls a lot of things and when out of whack can wreak havoc with a body - not to mention a mind.

Stress is a huge factor in insomnia as well. I had a job that I initially loved, but grew more and more dissatisfied with over time. Unbeknownst to me, I became highly stressed out over the job and it manifested itself in insomnia. It sometimes took hours for me to fall asleep at night. I'd take Ibuprofen, Tylenol PM, drink warm milk, take hot baths - all in an attempt to fall asleep within a reasonable period of time of going to bed.

I was laid-off from that job and two weeks later, I had absolutely NO difficulty falling asleep within 10-15 minutes of going to bed - and except for an occasional night when my restlessleg leg sydrome kicks in - I haven't had another recurrance of insomnia since. Actually - I have the opposite problem - I find myself suffering from Narcolepsy and nodding off at my computer and other inopportune times.

I'm going for a complete physical this Tuesday!

Gemdrite
03-19-2007, 08:33 AM
Stress is a huge factor in insomnia as well. I had a job that I initially loved, but grew more and more dissatisfied with over time. Unbeknownst to me, I became highly stressed out over the job and it manifested itself in insomnia. It sometimes took hours for me to fall asleep at night. I'd take Ibuprofen, Tylenol PM, drink warm milk, take hot baths - all in an attempt to fall asleep within a reasonable period of time of going to bed.
Unfortunately, I think stress is what is causing my latest bout of insomnia. Sunday night-Thursday night, I cannot fall asleep, and when I finally do, I can't stay asleep. Weekends, however, I have no troubles sleeping 12 hours straight without waking up once. I am thinking I am stressed out because of having to teach full days, but honestly, other than the insomnia, I don't *feel* stressed. I'm not nervous, I'm not nauseous, I just can't seem to get my mind to shut down, I guess.

daBaroness
03-19-2007, 09:41 PM
Ain't it grand in the land of grownups?

:yuck:

Pansy Faye
03-20-2007, 11:25 AM
My oldest daughter kept waking up when she was 5 years old. for 6 months we would spend at least 2 hours each night looking for something. She never told me what we were looking for, but we finally found it. It was a cow in the barn.

Ummm - we don't have a barn, we live in the city. But there it was in the barn, a big brown and white Jersey. Gotta love sleep walkers.

Middle daughter is always waking up thinking she's falling down a hole. Can we say Alice in Wonderland? She never did sleep well even as a baby.

My son used to have conversations in his sleep, but he never said anything good. Mostly argued with his teachers. Now when he gets home he's too tired to even move after he falls alseep. Wakes up in the same position.

Husband always wakes me up with a jerk. He dreams at least 3 times a week that he's being thrown off a cliff. Hmmm - what would Freud say about that?

Me? I just snore. I sound like a locomotive coming in to the station. Rock the house and shatter the windows. Got that from my dad.