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Luciana
06-26-2008, 03:56 PM
Groups fight abortion for 11-year-old Romanian Girl, who was raped by her uncle, seeks to travel to U.K. for procedure


BUCHAREST, Romania - Twenty church groups on Thursday urged a government committee not to allow an 11-year-old girl who was raped by her uncle go to Britain for an abortion.

The anti-abortion Christian Orthodox groups also threatened to press charges if the girl were allowed to have a termination in Romania on exceptional grounds.

Their position was in contrast to the official stand of the Romanian Orthodox Church, which said the decision should be left to the girl's family.

A government committee is to decide on Friday whether the girl can go to Britain for an abortion or must continue the pregnancy. A Romanian living in Britain has offered to meet the costs.

The girl's pregnancy only became known earlier this month when her parents took her to a doctor because she appeared unwell. She told doctors she had been raped by her 19-year-old uncle, who has since disappeared.

She is now 20 weeks pregnant. The legal limit for abortions in Romania is 14 weeks. Abortions can be carried out later only to save the life of the mother.

In Britain an abortion is legal up to 24 weeks if two doctors decide that the risk to a woman's physical or mental health will be greater if she continues with the pregnancy than if she ends it.

The case has bitterly split the medical community, child rights groups and the public.

Split within church
In a statement, the church groups offered "material, spiritual and psychological help" to the child's impoverished family, adding they would also rear the child in a church institution if the family was unable to care for it.

But splits were apparent even within the church.

Constantin Stoica, spokesman for the Romanian Orthodox Church, to which more than 80 percent of Romanians belong, said Wednesday it was "an exceptional situation which must be treated in an exceptional manner and the family is the only one to take this decision."

He said the church considers abortion a crime, but this belief applies to normal circumstances and not to incest or rape.

The National Child Protection Authority has said the girl should be allowed to have an abortion because she is already traumatized by the experience of rape and pregnancy.

The National Doctors Council, however, said that the rights of the fetus should be considered and the pregnancy should go ahead. They argued that abortion laws should not be liberalized further.

KissMeKate
06-26-2008, 04:02 PM
It's terrible that she is finding herself in a government/religious tug-of-war after being raped and now pregnant. No matter what, she'll either be constantly reminded of the rape she endured or probably ostracized by her community for aborting the fetus.

Luciana
06-26-2008, 04:08 PM
It's terrible that she is finding herself in a government/religious tug-of-war after being raped and now pregnant. No matter what, she'll either be constantly reminded of the rape she endured or probably ostracized by her community for aborting the fetus.


Interesting enough in Romania abortion is not such a stigma, maybe because for 20 years abortions were illegal and many women died because of abortions performed by non medical personel.

LdyJhawk
06-26-2008, 06:29 PM
I think every single person who is protesting this CHILD'S ability to have an abortion after an experience like what she's already had should be run over by a bus.. then backed over

Andreadoria
06-26-2008, 08:05 PM
I think every single person who is protesting this CHILD'S ability to have an abortion after an experience like what she's already had should be run over by a bus.. then backed over

Can I second that and Drive the Bus...then go and run over the Uncle!!!!!

For All that is Holy she is 11...is that not enough.

SHpepperKat
06-26-2008, 10:11 PM
Can I second that and Drive the Bus...then go and run over the Uncle!!!!!

For All that is Holy she is 11...is that not enough.


I'll add spikes to the tires.

It should be enough that she's been through hell and back already. But those who are protesting this are not thinking about the life of this young girl. They want to get their political view point out there in the face of the people and are using this child to do that. Assholes...

Isabelle Warwicke
06-26-2008, 11:15 PM
Can an 11 year old give birth without her life being threatened by the event?

Andreadoria
06-26-2008, 11:28 PM
I'll add spikes to the tires.

It should be enough that she's been through hell and back already. But those who are protesting this are not thinking about the life of this young girl. They want to get their political view point out there in the face of the people and are using this child to do that. Assholes...

And are holding up her having an abortion with all the legal posturing and who's right. It probably will cause her harm.

SHpepperKat
06-27-2008, 01:16 AM
Can an 11 year old give birth without her life being threatened by the event?
For a girl that young to give birth it is considered a high risk pregnancy and delivery. She would have to be closely monitored. I don't have facts or statistics to back this up, but I would say that it wouldn;t be a good thing at all. There have been younger mothers. Just recently in Idaho, a 10 year old gave birth.

The other question that I have is what will happen to the baby if she is forced to continue the pregnancy?

DoņaNina
06-27-2008, 10:54 AM
No matter what, she'll either be constantly reminded of the rape she endured

She'll have that no matter what, unfortunately. This is making it even worse.

Ravin' Raven
06-27-2008, 11:15 AM
The other question that I have is what will happen to the baby if she is forced to continue the pregnancy?

Apparently the church has offered to take the child and have it raised in a church home....

However, as of yesterday, the courts approved this - at 21 weeks! So yes all of this wrangling has just made this even more traumatic.

Adriana Rose
06-27-2008, 01:57 PM
That is just plain sad!

Peaches O Malley
06-27-2008, 02:11 PM
What about "Stay the fuck out of a womans uterus!" do these fanatics not understand??? Regarding the bus, I'll drive. May I also suggest a woodchipper for the uncle?

SHpepperKat
06-27-2008, 02:20 PM
Apparently the church has offered to take the child and have it raised in a church home....

However, as of yesterday, the courts approved this - at 21 weeks! So yes all of this wrangling has just made this even more traumatic.


Thank you. I hadn't seen that information.

And thank all abouve that someone finally came to their senses and this girl can get the help she needs.

Saucy Sue
06-27-2008, 03:26 PM
I am happy to hear that she is going to be able to get the abortion.

I want to bring the steam roller to follow behind the bus to catch any pieces that might have been missed!

shadowcat546
06-30-2008, 06:42 PM
Oh! how awful for that 11 yr old girl.
My prayers are with her.

I volunteer to douse that vile Uncle with acid before you folk run him over /steamroll.

Catherine
06-30-2008, 08:50 PM
I'm sending good thoughts toward her right now. I'm just sad that this is going to affect the rest of her life. She might continue to harbor ill feelings toward men. I know I would, and then some. And with an abortion at such a young age, even if she does get over the men thing, would she even be able to have kids again?

Um, can I play a little game called 'Knot the Uncle's Entrails" before the acid? Please?