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lavender r dragon
10-20-2008, 04:56 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081020/ap_on_el_pr/palin_gay_marriage

(bolding mine - ofr those who like to skim, lol)

NEW YORK – Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin says she supports a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage, a break with John McCain who has said he believes states should be left to define what marriage is. In an interview with Christian Broadcasting Network, the Alaska governor said she had voted in 1998 for a state amendment banning same sex marriage and hoped to see a federal ban on such unions.

"I have voted along with the vast majority of Alaskans who had the opportunity to vote to amend our Constitution defining marriage as between one man and one woman. I wish on a federal level that's where we would go. I don't support gay marriage," Palin said. She said she believed traditional marriage is the foundation for strong families.

McCain, an Arizona senator, is supporting a ballot initiative in his state this year that would ban gay marriage. But he has consistently and forcefully opposed a federal marriage amendment, saying it would usurp states' authority on such matters.

As governor, Palin vetoed a bill that would have denied benefits to the partners of gay state employees. In a debate with Democratic rival Joe Biden, Palin said she was "tolerant" of gays and said she supported certain legal protections for same-sex couples, like hospital visitation rights.

In the CBN interview, Palin also said she would speak out if she heard a supporter at a rally yell violent or threatening comments about Barack Obama, the Democratic presidential nominee.

"What we have heard through some mainstream media is that folks have hollered out some atrocious and unacceptable things like 'kill him,'" Palin said, referring to a Washington Post story two weeks ago about angry supporters at a Palin rally in Florida. "If I ever were to hear that standing up there at the podium with the mike, I would call them out on that, and I would tell these people, no, that's unacceptable."

CBN released excerpts of the interview Monday and planned to broadcast it in its entirety Tuesday.

Palin also claimed religion and God had been "mocked" during the campaign, although she offered no evidence to support that.

"Faith in God in general has been mocked through this campaign, and that breaks my heart and that is unfair for others who share a faith in God and choose to worship our Lord in whatever private manner that they deem fit," she said.

Palin is a conservative Christian who was baptized and grew up attending Pentecostal churches. In September, Obama defended Palin's religious beliefs and said it would be "offensive" to portray her faith as strange or wrong.

Palin also reaffirmed her view that Obama had been "palling around with terrorists" because of his association with Bill Ayers, a 1960s-era radical who helped found the violent Weather Underground group to protest the Vietnam war. The group was responsible for bombings of several government buildings.

"I would say it again," she said.

Ayers and Obama live in the same Chicago neighborhood and have served together on charity boards. Ayers also hosted a house party for Obama when he was first running for the Illinois state Senate.

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On the Net:

Christian Broadcasting Network: http://www.cbn.com

McCain-Palin: http://www.johnmccain.com

Obama: http://www.barackobama.com

lavender r dragon
10-20-2008, 05:00 PM
and another yahoo news article right now on mccain/palin;

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081020/ap_on_el_pr/mccain

snip:

ST. CHARLES, Mo. – Republican John McCain and his supporters on Monday branded Democrat Barack Obama a liberal and criticized feminists and the media as they rallied their conservative base in Missouri, a hotly contested bellwether state, two weeks before the election.

In a stump speech sharpened for the second week in a row, the GOP presidential candidate defended his running mate, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, against attacks from the "feminist left." And Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., introduced McCain by declaring him under siege by the "liberal elite media."

"John's been there and he's met a little tougher people in his life than the liberal media," Graham said in an allusion to McCain's years as a prisoner of war in Vietnam.

Taking aim at Obama, Graham implored the crowd: "Show us that you understand and see a liberal when he's standing out there in front of you. Make sure you show America that it does matter that you keep your word if you're president of the United States."

The sharper remarks and tone came as McCain appeared before a weekday crowd of 2,000 in this suburb north of St. Louis, where Obama drew 100,000 on Saturday. Aside from several new key phrases and adjectives, McCain kept to his recent economic focus and the crowd failed to pick up on of his some standard applause lines.

LdyJhawk
10-20-2008, 05:06 PM
Oh my.. I can't imagine this is going to help solidify a voter base.

Cyranno DeBoberac
10-20-2008, 07:27 PM
Palin also claimed religion and God had been "mocked" during the campaign, although she offered no evidence to support that.

"Faith in God in general has been mocked through this campaign, and that breaks my heart and that is unfair for others who share a faith in God and choose to worship our Lord in whatever private manner that they deem fit," she said.

She's actually correct about that. But the religion that has been mocked is Islam, and the mockery has come from her supporters, so I'm kinda surprised that she's complaining about it.


The sharper remarks and tone came as McCain appeared before a weekday crowd of 2,000 in this suburb north of St. Louis, where Obama drew 100,000 on Saturday.

LOL.

daBaroness
10-20-2008, 08:22 PM
Bob! Are you mocking McCain cuz he threw a party and nobody came?!

Pathos
10-20-2008, 08:24 PM
The sharper remarks and tone came as McCain appeared before a weekday crowd of 2,000 in this suburb north of St. Louis, where Obama drew 100,000 on Saturday.

I was gonna' comment on that but I can see the difference between an event on Monday morning and one on Saturday.

8-)

daBaroness
10-20-2008, 08:35 PM
actually - Obama drew a crowd of 75,000 Saturday afternoon here in Kansas City.

Pathos
10-20-2008, 08:50 PM
actually - Obama drew a crowd of 75,000 Saturday afternoon here in Kansas City.

Hell...I'll go to a rally on Saturday afternoon.

During the week...mmm...prolly not.

8-)

Winifred Baskerville
10-20-2008, 10:07 PM
Hell...I'll go to a rally on Saturday afternoon.

During the week...mmm...prolly not.

8-)

As I'm sure most people think... so why would McCain host a rally then? :unamused:

Pathos
10-20-2008, 10:18 PM
As I'm sure most people think... so why would McCain host a rally then? :unamused:
Because he can't just suspend his campaign for every little thing now can he?

The economic crisis...fine.

It being a weekday...not so much.

8-)

Cyranno DeBoberac
10-20-2008, 11:36 PM
Has any McCain rally anywhere on any day drawn 100,000 people?


(Excepting Klan rallies, of course. ;-))

Pathos
10-21-2008, 08:17 AM
Has any McCain rally anywhere on any day drawn 100,000 people?
Depends who you ask.

You ask McCains people and the answer is yes.

You ask the police in the cities where they have the rallies the answer is no.

8-)

Selena
10-21-2008, 08:34 AM
"Palin said she was "tolerant" of gays"

Wow. Gee. Thanks, Sarah. That really is quite tolerant of you to deny someone rights just because of who they love. :unamused:

Winifred Baskerville
10-21-2008, 09:12 AM
"Palin said she was "tolerant" of gays"

Wow. Gee. Thanks, Sarah. That really is quite tolerant of you to deny someone rights just because of who they love. :unamused:

Remember, she also thinks it's their choice to be gay. :unamused:

Mistress Morigianna
10-21-2008, 10:18 PM
Remember, she also thinks it's their choice to be gay. :unamused:

yeah like her choice to be a hate monger

Ysobelle
10-21-2008, 10:26 PM
yeah like her choice to be a hate monger


Oh, snap!


WOOT!

BronxGirl
10-21-2008, 11:36 PM
Remember, she also thinks it's their choice to be gay. :unamused:

At least she believes in choice for something.

Cyranno DeBoberac
10-21-2008, 11:41 PM
At least she believes in choice for something.


Double snap! http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/7526/emotnyd2mcim4.gif (http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/7526/emotnyd2mcim4.gif)

UnicornBee
10-22-2008, 06:31 AM
She is making more and more enemies for herself, I swear...

My dad pointed something out. What if she is trying to get McCain to lose so she can try to run in 2012?