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MaidMarion
10-22-2008, 02:31 AM
And I thought I had it bad with a bill I'm trying to dispute.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27299090/wid/11915773?GT1=31037

DALLAS - A woman says she waited 19 hours at Parkland Memorial Hospital’s emergency department for treatment of a broken leg and never did get to see a doctor — but still got a bill for $162.

Amber Joy Milbrodt, who said she broke a bone in her leg while playing volleyball, received the bill two weeks after her Sept. 24 visit.

Parkland officials say the bill was appropriate because a nurse spent time checking her vital signs to assess her level of need.

But that’s not how Milbrodt sees it. “It should have been more like them paying me for having to sit in the emergency room for 19 hours,” she told The Dallas Morning News.

The assessment by the nurse, which lasted a few minutes, established her place in line that night. By that time, Milbrodt said, she had already been waiting about 3˝ hours.

She still had not been called more than 15 hours later, so she gave up and went home. She had an X-ray taken at a chiropractic school where she is a student, and that had already confirmed that she had a fracture.

“She’s not paying for waiting,” says Rick Rhine, the hospital’s vice president in charge of billing. “She’s paying for the assessment she received.”

Milbrodt, 29, who has no insurance, said she does not plan to pay. After leaving the ER, she rested at home for a few days and then put her leg in a brace, which she still wears. It seems to be healing, she said.

A few days before Milbrodt’s visit, a 58-year-old man who went to the ER with stomach pains also waited 19 hours — and then suffered cardiac arrest and died.

Hospital officials say they need more beds to handle the excessive number of patients who need care. A bond measure on the Nov. 4 ballot would provide funds for a new, larger hospital.

Fort Worth’s large public hospital, John Peter Smith, shares Parkland’s policy of charging for a triage assessment. But other hospitals in Dallas, such as Baylor University Medical Center, don’t charge if the person never sees a doctor.

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Now correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it true emergancy rooms can't make you pay anyway? Or do you have to prove you're poor or something like that?

*HUGS*

K.J.

MaidenFaeSnow
10-22-2008, 06:25 AM
Heck, I got a bill once from a hospital in MA for a doctor to read x-rays. I've never even been to MA nor have I ever had x-rays on the area they said I did. I disputed the bill and never heard any more about it. Later I learned that it is common practice for some hospitals to bill misc. people like that for things that the actual patients insurance companies wouldn't cover, didn't cover enough of, etc.

UnicornBee
10-22-2008, 06:28 AM
Here is my take on it.
Yes, they are right to bill her for theassessment as long as that is what it is saying it is for, not saying she saw a doctor.
HOWEVER, because of how long she waited, it would be better for the hospital to write it off.

I'm not sure if an ER can force you to pay or not. I guess its possible for it to affect your credit score though if they wanted to push it that far.

Torra
10-22-2008, 06:54 AM
I don't believe an ER can force you to pay. However, as UnicornBee pointed out, they can turn the bill over to credit companies, who can then make your life harder by having that negative report on your credit score. At least, that's what I've been told.

I've also heard it's better to go to teaching clinics and hospitals because if you're seen by a student (even if they're attached to a doctor), you won't be charged or the charge is nominal.

Sorcha Griannon
10-22-2008, 08:40 AM
I don't believe an ER can force you to pay. However, as UnicornBee pointed out, they can turn the bill over to credit companies, who can then make your life harder by having that negative report on your credit score. At least, that's what I've been told.

I've also heard it's better to go to teaching clinics and hospitals because if you're seen by a student (even if they're attached to a doctor), you won't be charged or the charge is nominal.
Non-payment of medical bills CAN go on your credit report, however, they do not affect your score, and are supposedly there for information purposes only. Someone looking at your report can't use it against you.
An ER must stabilize a person, regardless of whether the person can pay. But once you are stable, I think that they can cut you loose.

Sorcha

WenchLadyKate
10-22-2008, 09:11 AM
Non-payment of medical bills CAN go on your credit report, however, they do not affect your score, and are supposedly there for information purposes only. Someone looking at your report can't use it against you.
An ER must stabilize a person, regardless of whether the person can pay. But once you are stable, I think that they can cut you loose.

Sorcha

Unless you want a mortgage. Mortgage companies can use unpaid medical bills against you. At least that's what the lady I've been talking to said. Even if it isn't official, they can still hike up your interest because of the unpaid bills. (I'm desparately trying to fix my credit after all those years of not giving a crap.)