Moresca Max Bodice 4Sale on Ebay

[Maddie]

It isn't listed as a Moresca, but after a short discussion with the seller she admitted that she just could not remember the name of the place she purchased the bodice from., but when I sent her the Moresca URL she said YES, THAT'S IT!!. :lol: Anyway, she's started the bid at $70 for it. I'd bid on it, but alas it is too small for my too ample body!

Good luck and may the best wench win!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=5358732102&ssPageName

http://i2.ebayimg.com/01/i/02/f2/3c/ce_1_b.JPG

she claims it retailed for 280.....

is she crazy?


also, if she has only worn it two times, wher eis the moresca interior tag?

they sew in their tags and they are NOT easy to remove....smells kind of fishy in this auction....
I mean it is a max bodice and you showed her the website where it has the price listed as 125 (145 for xl)

why would she more then or almost (depending on the size) double the price...and after you pointed the real deal out to her, fix the auction to reflect the real pirce and name of the company, but then again, if she lists the company then folks would know the real price...

Muffin

[Maddie]

she claims it retailed for 280.....

is she crazy?


also, if she has only worn it two times, wher eis the moresca interior tag?

they sew in their tags and they are NOT easy to remove....smells kind of fishy in this auction....
I mean it is a max bodice and you showed her the website where it has the price listed as 125 (145 for xl)

why would she more then or almost (depending on the size) double the price...and after you pointed the real deal out to her, fix the auction to reflect the real pirce and name of the company, but then again, if she lists the company then folks would know the real price...

Muffin

All good questions Muffin. I don't know her personally. She is on a corset board that I belong too. She said that she purchased the bodice at a faire in Woodstock CT, or NY 3 years ago? I can't remember which. Well, that would leave one faires that I know of if it is NY which would have possibly (??) been Stockwood, but I don't remember if Moresca had a tent there or not. I sent her the link to Moresca's sight. She said that she purchased the bodice for $180. Maybe she was looking at the wrong bodice on Moresca's sight? Though I wondered about it, but didn't ask, I rather questioned the tag thing too, but I know that I am a person who loaths tags and nearly always cut them out closely to the seam with sissors. Perhaps she did this as well, I dunno. She says that the size is M/L or there abouts.

My suggestion is that you email her these same questions on the ebay auction.

[Constance Innuendo]

I think this item stinks to high heaven ladies. After emailing her, she INSISTS that she paid $280 for it (cough cough bullsh*t), and that it will fit anyone from a small to an extra large. . .. now being fairly familiar with Moresca (and intimately familiar with the Max bodice (I'm on my third)) I can confidently say this woman either has no CLUE what she's talking about, OR she's up to something.

Yeah Moresca was at Stockwood and they do not change their prices to fit a venue....

I am very familiar with their inventory, even going to two of the three open houses last year and checking out everything...

There is NO WAY she paid 180 for that bodice, even with tax in NY....

she sounds all kinds of shady and not trust worthy...as I said, Moresca sewa their tags into the bac of the bodice, and they are not easily removed...

sound like she bought a size L and is trying to sell it to any sucker who comes along, pretty sad....

if she is on a corset board, but NOT remember the name of the company who made it or where she even bought it....that just does not jive...

and, from what constance is saying about her insisting she paid 280 for it, she sounds like a scam artist...

sad thing is, I know it is real, and it will sell for a decent asking price, but sounds like she was hoping that by saying she paid so much for it, she is looking to make a prfit rather then simply unload a used bodice...

by setting a high purchased price, she must be hoping people would think it a steal if they bid to 200 even!!!

wow, hope I never meet her....she may offer to buy me a drink then say it cost her 10 dollar for a soda and could I pay for part of it.....5 dollars is a steal!!!!

Muffin

[Mylilpinkpig]

She lists the bodice as "new without Tags" and then goes on to say it was worn. I would be very cautious buying anything from her. I did find the "well conceilled cash" funny as a method of payment.

[Constance Innuendo]

yeah hehe funny thing is this makes me feel funny because of what I was getting ready to sell lol not on ebay, I've never sold anything there. Its a Max bodice, size Large worn a total of five days at faire and in excellent condition. . .reason I'm getting rid of it, I shrank and it doesn't do "the girls" justice anymore they just sort of fall in. . . I was thinking of asking $80 for it. . . .hmm not so sure now

[Constance Innuendo]

something else I just noticed. . .. look at the ties. . .. definitely NOT original. . . .why? (this is totally a rhetorical question)

[Maddie]

How odd that she would insist that she paid 280 for it when she told me that she paid $180 for it, so I went back to her post. I've copied it. I apologize to everyone here, I think I've been duped.

Her inital post:
Calling all Ren Faire lovers!!! Corset on Ebay for sale!
I'm selling a corset on ebay right now that is truely unique and wonderful! It's and overbust, very similar to a Victorian cut with some slight modifications. I 've tryed numerous times to find out the exact name of the corset, but alas, I've not been able to yet.... I Bought it at a Faire a few years ago and haven't really found a use for it. If you're interested, please check out the auction!

Me:
It looks very much like a Moresca Max Bodice. Here's her link.
http://www.moresca.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=115&catid=30

Her:
THAT'S IT! You rock my socks, I better go change my description! That's funny though, I bought it at the ren fair for soooo much more then that!

Me:
Oh, at the faire she sells this bodice for about 140 or so if I remember correctly.

Her:
I bought it for 180, and that was on sale!

:?

[Gabrielle.Riley]

I've never seen a Moresca with trim that bright and so contrasting from the main fabric though...

[Bean]

I just sent her a question about the boning, how many, where are they, what kind (steel, plastic). Lets see if she really knows what she is talking about! I also think the explanation of the measurements this thing will fit is a bit dicey at best. There is NO WAY a corset can adapt to 10-12 inches of variation, and still fit properly!! She is smoking some serious crack......

[lauradake]

I could be wrong - but I don't think that's a Moresca.

Moresca Max's generally have a front seam, and (as far as I remember - those who actually have a ax can verify this one) are unlined. The front piece of this bodice HAS been but out of a single piece of fabric, and looks to be fully lined.

To me, this looks more like an Odd Bodkin bodice, as seen here:

http://oddbodkin.com/newpics/blkply8/redtap2-bod7.jpg

Which is even *less* expensive than a Moresca. These folks have a shop in OH, but I don't know if they have ever set up booths at any faires.

Just my .65! :)

It is not an odd bodkin....you can tell by the double grommets which is common on almost all moresca bodices going back years....

my theory is that this bodice is older that was left in a closet and just brought out to be sold to make some fast cash...

but this is just my theory.....and the trim is not that bright, just the digi pics masking it look brighter then it really is (had a lot of that experience when photographing my garb for sale)

maybe it is an older bodice, as Lena is known to change styles over time......make them more supportive and such.....

just look at how the verona has changed over the years...

Who knows, all I know is this person is not being honest about it, and what makes it worse, when Maddie told her what the price was, and she insisted it was at least 180 and she was going to alter the aution, she never did...

also, laura, oddbodkin does not sell at stockwood, tux or ctrf.....so if, as she claiims, she bought it at one of those, it could not be an odd bodkin (I conferred with a few folks on this, even a good frined of the owners of odd bodkin)...

Muffin

[Constance Innuendo]

none of my Maxes seem to have or have had (I onlt have one present now) a front seam, and the most current one is backed (not lined precisely) in muslin. . . ..

[lauradake]

It is not an odd bodkin....you can tell by the double grommets which is common on almost all moresca bodices going back years....

my theory is that this bodice is older that was left in a closet and just brought out to be sold to make some fast cash...

but this is just my theory.....and the trim is not that bright, just the digi pics masking it look brighter then it really is (had a lot of that experience when photographing my garb for sale)

maybe it is an older bodice, as Lena is known to change styles over time......make them more supportive and such.....

just look at how the verona has changed over the years...

Who knows, all I know is this person is not being honest about it, and what makes it worse, when Maddie told her what the price was, and she insisted it was at least 180 and she was going to alter the aution, she never did...

also, laura, oddbodkin does not sell at stockwood, tux or ctrf.....so if, as she claiims, she bought it at one of those, it could not be an odd bodkin (I conferred with a few folks on this, even a good frined of the owners of odd bodkin)...

Muffin

Gotcha. :) Like I said - I don't have a Moresca Max, so I was working from memory. :)

[Bean]

I did get a response from the seller regarding my boning question. She said it is steel boned (1/2") and has 5 in front and 4 in back. Don't most corsets have an even number of bones in it? I am new to the whole corset thing, but why put in an odd amount of bones. Anyway, that was the answer. I still think this is shady.....

could be uneven....one down the middle one on each side of the middle one (about a few inches) then one along the grommets for the front..

the back would have one set along each of the grommets....

that is how moresca does it...

and I am assuming that is how hers are lined up...

Muffin

[Caitriona]

There is no way this is a Moresca. If you take a look at the other pics on the posting it looks like the binding tape used on the one shoulder is coming apart. Not that I haven't had problems with Moresca, but still.

It's most likely a Moresca knock off (and we know they exist). As for the trim being too bright - it may just be her camera and not the trim itself.

It's also not an Odd Bodkin. So it may just have been someone local who did knock-off's.

Lena should be flattered...

Just because the binding is coming off does not mean it is not a moresca...

eswpecially if it is what I think it is....an older one that has been well worn and is now resurfacing it be sold for some quick cash....

the older the moresca, the more dofferent it is (and the quality is less then it is now)....

Muffin

[Maddie]

<snip> Who knows, all I know is this person is not being honest about it, and what makes it worse, when Maddie told her what the price was, and she insisted it was at least 180 and she was going to alter the aution, she never did...
Muffin

You cannot change the description on the bid page once someone bids on it. At least that is what I am told. Having never sold anything on ebay I defer to those who have.

then the respectful thing to do is to end the auction (notifying the sole bidder and restart it with the HONEST text....that is possible to do...

anyone with any common sense or with a decent reputation (or cares about their reputation) should do so...

all know is I would never buy from this person and will make sure to watch for all other auctions they ever put up (added to my sellers list with a note in my head as to why they are on my watch list)

Muffin

[Rhia]

<snip> Who knows, all I know is this person is not being honest about it, and what makes it worse, when Maddie told her what the price was, and she insisted it was at least 180 and she was going to alter the aution, she never did...
Muffin

You cannot change the description on the bid page once someone bids on it. At least that is what I am told. Having never sold anything on ebay I defer to those who have.

sort of... you can't truly CHANGE the description, but you can ADD information and thus clarify questions...

...reading from the book of Ebay...

The information you can revise depends upon the time you have left before your listing ends and whether your item has had bids or purchases.

If your item has received no bids or purchases and does not end within 12 hours, you can revise anything in your listing except the selling format (for example, you can't change your auction-style listing to a fixed price listing).

If your item has received a bid, a purchase, or ends within 12 hours, you can only:
Add to the item description or add a second category
(Exception: If your listing has a bid and ends within 12 hours, you can't add to your description or add a second category)
Add optional seller features to increase your item's visibility.

[Kaige]

She said that she purchased the bodice at a faire in Woodstock CT, or NY 3 years ago? I can't remember which. Well, that would leave one faires that I know of if it is NY which would have possibly (??) been Stockwood, but I don't remember if Moresca had a tent there or not.

The only faire in Woodstock, CT is The Connecticut Renaissance Faire, and we do not host Moresca and never have :)

So she didn't get it from us if she claims it's a Moresca.

[Laneya]

Kaige, you beat me to it. :)

We've never had Moresca at CTRF. And that bodice doesn't resemble the work of any vendors that we do have.

[moira]

sorry i'm coming in so late in the game... but i haven't been able to get on the site in forever...

i hope no one here won this auction...

it's not a moresca. lena's never had that fabric, not even in the scrap pile. and the lines are soooo wrong. grommets are placed differently. boning is wrong... i could go on and on...

moira
(moresca slave for 3 years)

[moira]

oh! and on the boning issue. max 1's have a center seam and 4 bones... max 2's have a center panel and 5 bones...

moira

[lauradake]

oh! and on the boning issue. max 1's have a center seam and 4 bones... max 2's have a center panel and 5 bones...

moira

Ha! I *knew* I wasn't smoking crack in thinking that Max's had a center seam. :)

[Bean]

Isn't a fabulous thing when you realize that you really HAVEN'T lost your mind???

[lauradake]

Isn't a fabulous thing when you realize that you really HAVEN'T lost your mind???

*lol* It doen't happen often - so I have to rejoice when it does.