Lawmakers move to extend daylight Savings Time

[Nevada]

okay...nice to see what my tax dollars are paying for.


Lawmakers move to extend daylight-saving time
Measure part of energy bill

Friday, July 22, 2005; Posted: 11:12 a.m. EDT (15:12 GMT)


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Manage Alerts | What Is This? WASHINGTON (AP) -- An agreement was reached Thursday to extend daylight-saving time in an effort to conserve energy, but not to the extent the House approved in April.

House and Senate negotiators on an energy bill agreed to begin daylight-saving time three weeks earlier, on the second Sunday in March, and extend it by one week to the first Sunday in November. The House bill would have added a month in the spring and another in the fall.

According to some senators, farmers complained that a two-month extension could adversely affect livestock, and airline officials said it would have complicated scheduling of international flights.

"We ought to take a hard look at this before we jump into it," said Sen. Larry Craig, R-Idaho, who questioned how much oil savings the extension would produce.

Reps. Edward Markey, D-Massachusetts, and Fred Upton, R-Michigan, agreed to scale back their original proposal, and Senate negotiators accepted the new version, along with a call for a study on how much daylight-saving time actually affects oil consumption.

"The beauty of daylight-saving time is that it just makes everyone feel sunnier," said Markey.

Upton noted that the extension means daylight-saving time will continue through Halloween, adding to safety. "Kids across the nation will soon rejoice," said Upton, because they'll have another hour of daylight trick-or-treating.

Lawmakers said they hoped to complete the energy legislation next week.

[Myfanawy]

Arizona's weird--we don't observe Daylight Savings here. So half the year, we're MST, the other half, PST (which we're on now.) Haven't figured that one out yet, but oh well...at least I don't have to remember to change the clocks!
--Myf

[Jeannie Fitzgerald]

Arizona's weird--we don't observe Daylight Savings here. So half the year, we're MST, the other half, PST (which we're on now.) Haven't figured that one out yet, but oh well...at least I don't have to remember to change the clocks!
--Myf

Besides being conservative, AZ is also very independant. Dealing with DST is a royal hurt in the donkey (not only the clock issue but energy costs are actually increased), so, with the exception of the northwest corner of the state (which includes Kingman), AZ just says "NO!" to DST. As it is, in the summer, it doesn't get dark until after 8 pm.

Technically, we are stil on MST. Everywhere on DST are on their time zone with a D or something added somewhere (Old Timer's Disease kicking in).

I understand parts of Indiana also doesn't observe DST.

[Pathos]

farmers complained that a two-month extension could adversely affect livestock
I don't get that line. How can it adversely affect livestock? The days don't actually change...we just alter the way we measure it.

The livestock shouldn't notice any difference. They still get up when the sun comes up and sleep when it goes down. :?

[Jessa]

Upton noted that the extension means daylight-saving time will continue through Halloween, adding to safety. "Kids across the nation will soon rejoice," said Upton, because they'll have another hour of daylight trick-or-treating.
That sucks! The man is an idiot! Since when was trick-or-treating a daylight activity? Even when I was in preschool, we waited till dark to go out. Haloween is a nigh-time event. Trick-or-treating in broad daylight really looses something. I don't hand out candies until there's no sun to be seen.

We ought to abolish daylight saving all together. Its silly to change our clocks twice a year and its really doesn't accomplish anything. If you want to be active more during daylight hours, adjust your own damn schedule!

[MaidenFaeSnow]

Upton noted that the extension means daylight-saving time will continue through Halloween, adding to safety. "Kids across the nation will soon rejoice," said Upton, because they'll have another hour of daylight trick-or-treating.
That sucks! The man is an idiot! Since when was trick-or-treating a daylight activity? Even when I was in preschool, we waited till dark to go out. Haloween is a nigh-time event. Trick-or-treating in broad daylight really looses something. I don't hand out candies until there's no sun to be seen.

We ought to abolish daylight saving all together. Its silly to change our clocks twice a year and its really doesn't accomplish anything. If you want to be active more during daylight hours, adjust your own damn schedule!

No lie! We put up a rather elaborate Yard Haunt each year and we don't start until dark. With neighborhoods already screwing Halloween up by limiting hours (ours only gives up a whopping 2 hours for trick-or-treating) making it a daylight activity will totally SUCK HARD! Things that are scary in the dark are just NOT scary in daylight. Kids will rejoice??? Um....I DON'T THINK SO!! (Maybe his little nerddies :moon: ) If people in AZ can get along fine without DST, why can the rest of us?

[Cyranno DeBoberac]

We ought to abolish daylight saving all together. Its silly to change our clocks twice a year and its really doesn't accomplish anything. If you want to be active more during daylight hours, adjust your own damn schedule!
People with jobs don't really have that option.

Without DST, you'd have the sun rising at 4:30 in the morning, when it's pretty much of no use to anybody. You're effectively taking an hour of sunlight at the beginning of the day that no one uses and moving it to the end of the day where it can be appreciated. Seems perfectly sensible to me.

[erinrai]

That sucks! The man is an idiot! Since when was trick-or-treating a daylight activity? Even when I was in preschool, we waited till dark to go out. Haloween is a nigh-time event. Trick-or-treating in broad daylight really looses something. I don't hand out candies until there's no sun to be seen.

Unfortunately some communities will actually set a certain time frame for trick-or-treating. The town I spent my high school years in Indiana actually went so far as to change what Day you could trick-or-treat. If Halloween fell on a day that children had to get up for school the next day you went the day before or after depending on which one didn't have school the next day. And all kiddies had to be in before dark even the teenagers. Although considering the group I hung around that might have been a good idea. One less night to go corn cobbing or cow tipping. LOL

[Jeannie Fitzgerald]

We ought to abolish daylight saving all together. Its silly to change our clocks twice a year and its really doesn't accomplish anything. If you want to be active more during daylight hours, adjust your own damn schedule!
People with jobs don't really have that option.

Without DST, you'd have the sun rising at 4:30 in the morning, when it's pretty much of no use to anybody. You're effectively taking an hour of sunlight at the beginning of the day that no one uses and moving it to the end of the day where it can be appreciated. Seems perfectly sensible to me.

Depends where in the time zone you are. In AZ (Phoenix area) right now, it doesn't get to be light out until after 5:30 am.

Most of the construction trades, landscapers, etc., here in AZ adjust their hours earlier to avoid the worst of the heat of the day. Nine to fivers will often get up early to do outside chores before cleaning up for work. With our heat, nobody wants the day lasting any longer after work than necessary.

[Rhia]

Yes, I DO realize this thread is over a year and a half old BUT....


Daylight Savings Time is Changing in 2007

Apparently due to the Energy Policy Act of 2005 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_Policy_Act_of_2005), 2007 will mark a change in how Daylight Savings Time works. Clocks will now be changed in March (second Sunday) & November (first Sunday) instead of April & October.

This could potentially wreak havoc on all of our automated calendaring systems, scheduled tasks, timekeeping apps, and more. The person I got this from was nice enough to give us some links to help us take care of this earlier rather than later (say, in March, when everyone else is scrambling to fix this too).

* Microsoft's Hotfix for PCs and servers running a Windows OS can be found at: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/928388

(http://support.microsoft.com/kb/928388)* Mobile device users running a Windows OS should go to: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/923953/en-us
* Reg edits, scripts, and more can be found at: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/914387/en-us (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/914387/en-us)

[Buxom Wench]

Thanks for the heads-up Rhia.

I just wish they would have left well enough ALONE but, that's the government for ya.

Fix something that doesn't need fixing and don't fix what's completely broken. :sigh: